Posts by smiddy

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Oct 2017 WT again shunning instructions

by Daniel1555 in

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smiddy

pale emperor

A woman can't even pray aloud in the company of men without putting a dishcloth on her head.

Yet surprisingly enough she can sit on the right hand of Jesus as a co-ruler with Jesus Christ for a thousand years

So she has no say or authority in any congregation and certainly not in Bethel and no way can she be a Governing Body member ,heaven forbid a woman as a Governing body member ?

And yet she can rule with Jesus Christ in Heaven for a thousand years ? by being one of the annointed here on earth where she is not appreciated because she is a woman ?

The mind boggles.at the logic of Jehovahs Witnesses.

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Aust Census Data shows decrease while Yearbook shows increase

by shepherdless in

on threads about 8 or 9 months ago, i put up some detailed data from the 2011 and 2006 australian censuses.

data from the 2016 census is becoming available in stages, and i mentioned recently that i would do an update.

finally, as of about today, some data of interest is available, and i have started to look at this, but it is time consuming, and i am time-poor.. anyway, the first search i have conducted is just a simple breakdown of the number of people describing themselves as jw's.

smiddy

In a census when people are asked their religion relatives who are not now practicing their religion will still identify themselves as JW`s ,even ones that are DF`d are still likely to identify themselves as JW`s .

Many that have just drifted away without going to meetings anymore and have not definetely decided they dont want to be associated with JW`s are still likely to identify themselves as a JW on a Census form.

Many people that no longer associate with the JW religion are ones that I describe as persons who have left the "truth" but the "truth" has never left them

They may never go to a KH meeting for the rest of their life but they will still identify themselves as a Jehovahs witness (just in case it is true the indoctrination/ hedging their bets I would say.)

So I would take what a Census says about the population of jehovahs Witnesses in Australia with a grain of salt.

it is obviously overstated.

Food for thought :How many Jw`s are their in peak publishers in the yearbook in a given year and how many are reported in the same yearbook for memorial attendance ?

A big discrepancy I believe.

The indoctrination/superstitions that many people have

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Jehovah Banned in Singapore

by EverApostate in

singapore is a tiny, beautiful and economically powerful country in se asia.

all religions are allowed there except the jehaovah's witnesses and another christian denomination.

jws are banned because they don’t serve the military and all singapore citizens are required to serve in the military for a while.. the jws are banned in singapore since 1972. .

smiddy

Thank you EverApostate I didnt know that or if I did I had completely forgotten about it

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Where were the present GB members in 1975 and their ages the

by Lostandfound in

42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.

blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.

i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.

smiddy

Thanks for that info Dreamerdude ,that just shows how corrupt and dishonest these people really are , its all about power .

Rationalising what they formerly believed to what they now believe to stay in power.

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Watchtower teaches that Jesus dying on the stake is no longer certain

by Listener in

the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.

w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.

they are no longer certain on this point.

smiddy

"1.God rejecs worship that uses symbols or images including the cross"

Does that also include using the Tetragrammaton displayed in some kingdom halls ?

How about the JW.ORG logo used so widely now ? and worn as badges and pins and other paraphenalia?

So they still lean heavily on the belief Jesus died on a stake and not on a cross-beam.

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Whats that term??

by pbrow in

so i am driving with my oldest the other day and she says..... i was reading the watchtower at the meeting and thought.... "the watchtower and awake are just like... what is that stuff that countries put out when they are at war?...

propaganda... yeah, they only give you one side of something and you have to listen to them because they are chosen".

i praised allah right then and there!!!

smiddy

Great post ,if only I had that nouse when i was 19 years of age .

Well at least I did wake up 33 years later .

Your oldest does have the smarts ,kudos to her.

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Should Youths Get Baptized?

by NikL in

found this little gem of an article in the june 15, 2011 wt.... should youths get baptized?“i am so happy that my daughter is now a servant of jehovah, and i know that she is happy too,” said carlos, a christian father in the philippines.

a father from greece wrote: “my wife and i are delighted that our three children were baptized as jehovah’s witnesses during their adolescence.

they are making spiritual progress and are happy about serving jehovah.”christian parents have reason to be overjoyed when their children get baptized, but sometimes the joy is accompanied by uneasiness.

smiddy

Jehovahs witness children being baptised and then committing a sin in the eyes of the JW organization and then being subjected to sanctions and or shunning ,should be considered and recognised as child abuse by the organisation and prosecuted for such abuse.

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Australian State of Victoria! New Dept and laws to protect children

by zeb in

alexandra james posted: "the state of victoria, in australia, is moving forward with a new law that is meant to protect victims of child sex abuse, including when such incidents happen within a religious setting.

according to the "reportable conduct scheme" that has just been ena" respond to this post by replying above this line.

new post on jwvictims.org .

smiddy

I`m a little surprised this news hasnt generated more positive comment ?

Isnt this news a big step in the right direction ? worthy of a celebration?

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What did NOT get you out?

by problemaddict 2 in

i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.

in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.

i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.

smiddy

What did not get me out ?

Things that should have.

In the first year of my conversion ,hanky panky going on with a married bro and a pioneer sister.

Not long after in another congregation voting was taking place to change the Sunday meeting times to a morning or afternoon this went on for succesive weeks until the PO got the result he wanted and that was it.

Questionable business dealings between self employed Elders and brothers.

The lead up to 1975 and the denial of the GB they were anyway responsible .

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Non-JW notices the D-to-D drop off

by careful in

an interesting link that notes how jw (and mormon) door-to-door evangelism has dropped off:.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/where-have-all-the-jehovahs-witness-and-mormons-gone/news-story/35adc0d46c1b3c1d7cafca6d69dbb900.

the aussie writer notices that instead they have "set up a stall in the carpark at the supermarket.".

smiddy

Same problem Black sheep cant read it unless your a subscriber.