Welcome MOC , I enjoyed your OP and look forward to hearing more ,Those Elders appearing at your door while writing here , could have been sent by Satan , not Jah .LOL
smiddy
hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.
i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.
i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..
Welcome MOC , I enjoyed your OP and look forward to hearing more ,Those Elders appearing at your door while writing here , could have been sent by Satan , not Jah .LOL
smiddy
If God ,Jehovah ,Yahweh , or whatever YOU want to call him , doesn`t / hasn`t identified which Bible version , translation you should be using after 2000 years , shouldn~t you be concerned ?
Different Bible Translations do give different interpretations to certain texts .
Different Bible Translations also have different books
Some books are regarded by one religion as Apochrypha but not by another religion
Some Christian Religions have different books than other christian religions,
We are now over 2000 years since the last books of the Bible were written and this debate is still going on ?
Where in the world is the GOD of the Bible been these past 2000 years ?, He certainly has not been here .
smiddy
it embarrassed me.
when i was young my folks made me wear one and i opened it up and took the paper out making it look like it fell out.
after my folks ask what happen i said i dont know.
Not only did I wear a badge as my wife and children did , but before the international Convention in 1962/3 ? in Melbourne ,I had a huge poster advertising the convention on our large window facing the street ,I don`t think anybody in our congregation had one .I also had bumper stickers on my car advertising the Convention .
and at that time we were in a housing comission house not long after we were married,I`m surprised we were never told to take it down , or for that matter somebody throwing a rock through our window .
I was proud to wear a badge , I must have been a real dickhead ,sad to say.
smiddy
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
Is anybody here giving any thought to the poor bastard (brother ) she cheated on in her marriage ?
I can only imagine what he was/is going through
How would you feel if your marriage partner cheated on you so early in your marriage ? Low self esteem , alcohol dependency , drug abuse , suicidal tendency`s ,the glares and Judgemental attitudes of the witnesses in your congregation , the avoidance some give you , and the rest who just do not know what to say to you so they avoid you .?
Think about the brother who was wronged
My son went through this crap ,and my wife and I went through years of agony trying to get him through this betrayal ,his wife slept with his "best friend" , and you know what? the Elders , Co`s ,J.W.`s in his congregation were useless as far as my son was concerned and equally so with my wife and myself , that was the final nail in the coffin , they have no idea how to deal with problems.
They think the Bible gives them knowledge of everything , when in fact it gives them nothing .
smiddy
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to my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
I was told in the 1960`s that this system could not possibly go much longer than another 5 years .,where is that brother now .GRRRR
smiddy
whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.
it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.
i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .
I can`t be specific about numbers , but my memory tells me in the 1960`s , 70`s a ball park figure of D.F persons was on average each year was 60,000 Jehovah`s Witnesses , admittedly many/some of them got re-instated , possibly a third ? they never did, as far as I can recall give a number for those who stopped attending meetings to never return.
smiddy
i posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
If you lived in O.T. Bible times you would have been stoned to death , think about that.
To have an affair to get out of a marriage you went into with your eyes open , and then want to be re-instated to a religion you don`t believe in , just to have social normalcy with family and friends , and then plan to fade ,so you can keep those relationships alive , while at the same time marrying the person who was complicit in your plan to commit adultery , I`m aghast , you are one conniving , manipulative woman who is self indulgent .
As much as I hate the WTB&TS , I hope they throw the book at you for what you have done to your ex and what you plan to do .
If you want to know what I really think PM me.
I realize you are new here ,you may be young ,you may be naive ,regardless of what I have said stick around ,
you are bound to learn much from other people on this board
smiddy
so at last i am in my next step of my fade, this month is the first month i did not turned in any hours.
i received a text from our group leader an ms & i told him i didn't have any to report, then of course it got bumped up to the elder & i text him back i have no hours to report for december.
i came to this decision when reading many posters here about the yearbook stats, i do not want & refused to contribute to this organization "boosting" numbers for their glorious purposes, after the rc in australia they do not deserve for me to give them a "production" report of what i do for god, no more.
Khaleesi
Remember this important fact :
"The only power they have over you is the power you give them"
They have NO power OR authority over you unless YOU give it to them
Do not fall into that trap.
It is as you said your worship to God is between you and him alone nobody else , when they try to badger you say , It`s between me and my God and nobody else , thank you for your concern , and say nothing else to them , do not engage in conversation as they will try to trap you in your words.
Take care , I wish you all the best
smiddy
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why won't watchtower tell abusers "i'm going to tell on you!
" and follow through with the proper authorities?
When G.Jackson was brought before the A.R.C. he said words to the effect ," if all states in Australia had mandatory reporting laws , we would not have this problem of 1006 cases of child abuse not being reported to the authorities by Elders of Jehovah`s Witnesses " Which by the way means 3,018 Elders that did not report it , that is to say 3 on a judicial committee times 1006 =3018 .
So G.Jackson was effectively blaming the Australian Government for their not reporting Child sexual abuse in there midst.
So he was in effect trying to pass the buck onto the Australian Government.
The mind boggles
smiddy
having recently read orwells 1984, i was impressed with how he understood that both politicians and people abuse language.
this further confirmed to me how the w.t had deceived me by using words to distort reality.
the book 1984, also contains many other great thoughts of george orwell.. of course there have been many other great thinkers, buddah, darwin, freud, einstein and marx come to mind.
Flipper ,
You stole my thunder , I was about to post how I am so appreciative of all the people on this board who post , many of which are great thinkers whose knowledge and intellect is something I admire .
I only have a basic education , and I stand in awe of some of the in-depth discussions about all manner of topics that are discussed here .Some of which are way over my head .LOL
My education has been enhanced by the great thinkers on this board , and at times I can still be a dickhead , because I`m forever learning .
smiddy