Posts by smiddy

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When Elders Drink and Get tooo Relaxed

by Luther bertrand in

what was the craziest thing you have ever heard an elder say after getting sauced?

smiddy

Not that I can answer your question specifically Luther

. However I was an MS and associated with Elders socially and we all had plenty to drink at functions without getting drunk / I would say we could drink a lot without being visibly intoxicated .And in those days you could get away with it.and even drive.

We did have a good social life.among the J.W.`s

Nobody in our circle of friends was ever charged with drink driving.

Of course this never happened every weekend , maybe it happened once or twice a year in my 33 years as a J.W. , just to set the record straight.

No way could you get away with that nowadays.

smiddy

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It has always been a business: Miracle Wheat Investigation highlights WT Finances in 1911

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i am still not done with the miracle wheat article... there's just so much information to process!

i already did the summary, and the new information that i have doesn't change my conclusion: the entire scandal happened because russell was very gullible and didn't check with government agencies to see if the wheat was legitimate or not.

he went into a business venture on which he knew nothing about.here's some interesting stats about the finances of the watchtower back in 1911:it received, from the sale of books and donations, $150,000.

smiddy

I look forward to more of your revelations ILoveTTATT2

smiddy

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Bets on when the UN prophecy will be dropped?

by marmot in

now that i'm free to bet, i figured it would be neat to start a pool on when the watchtower is going to change light bulbs on the prophecy about the united nations turning on worldwide religion.

there is no doubt in my mind that this prediction will be dropped.

not only is this the longest-running unchanged prediction in the wt's history (1925 and 1975 had much shorter gestations) it's the last detailed concrete prediction the society has left in its bag of tricks.

smiddy

Wouldn`t surprise me Coded Logic , that`s what they usually do with failed prophecy`s made by them .

Between the 1960`s and 70`s they would quote the scripture that said " when they are saying peace and security " then instant destruction will be upon them " I Thes .5:3

We are more than 30 years after that fateful year.

But hang on the scripture in Revelation says , 2000 years ago,Rev :22 : 20 where Jesus is coming " quickly" , and he is still not here for that final judgement , over 2000 years later.

The United Nations did in fact declare a year in the 1980`s as a year of Peace and Security and nothing like 'instant /destruction " occurred .

I may be wrong but I don`t think that was the only year the UN designated a year as peace & security.

smiddy

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What do you think is the source of your consciousness? Can it be copied or transferred?

by EndofMysteries in

this seems to be a question that even scientifically is still in the air.

right now your consciousness, is it the physical part of the brain?

the electrical signals in the brain?

smiddy

Has science conclusively defined what consciousness actually is ?

I don`t know.

Before we were born we had no awareness of conscience , we had no brain.

While we are alive , we develop consciousness over time , because we have a brain, and we grow.

When we die , our brain dies , our consciousness must die with it., because it is associated with the brain .

People on life support systems are turned off when their is no function of the brain , in other words no consciousness.

To speculate that consciousness somehow crosses over to the spiritual world , if such a world really exists . at the point of death , has no scientific backing and belongs in the realm of science fiction.

, smiddy

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Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

by William Penwell in

in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

smiddy

As a convert at age 19 , I would say it attracts vulnerable people who are going through some crises in their lives , whether it be small or major , and the J.w.`s take full advantage of that .

smiddy

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People's Pulpit?

by bcpenney in

i believe there was a magazine or newspaper published during russell's time called the people's pulpit.

i'm specifically trying to locate vol.

can anyone point me in the right direction?

smiddy

C.T.Russell in one corner and J.F.Rutherford in another corner ,

come out fighting guys .

smiddy

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Christadelphian

by Billy1000 in

my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.

i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.

in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.

smiddy

Billy

Did you watch the video MarkofCane posted , Dear Believer Why Do You Believer ?

If you did , was it with a closed mind ? or an open mind ?

I would suggest you look at it with an open mind.

The similarities between J.W,`s , Christadelphians also extends to in some respects the Mormons , Assembly of God ,Seventh Day Adventists ,and many other smaller sects.

Are you aware their are over 45,000 Christian sects alone ?Yet no God has ever put his stamp of approval on any of them

Another one that comes to mind is one that springs from the Phillipines ,that is very similar to the J.W.`s and even has more members worldwide than the J.W.`s

Oh , by the way welcome to this forum and good luck on your spiritual journey

smiddy

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'Spotlight' film

by Jordandemm in

has anyone seen the film dont know if its been discussed on here, im just watching it now with my dad he is an elder, he went to do something else less than a 1/4 way through the film, he doesnt usually do that.

then he questioned why i choose to watch it not suspiciously i think he was just curious.

anyway its a film worth watching, its based on true events about the coverup of child abuse within the catholic church.

smiddy

Yep I give it 5 stars or thumbs up

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John Denver: On being human

by StoneWall in

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i have renewed respect and admiration for john denver after watching/listening to this video.some of it reminds me of words by another john, john lennon.i really regret that my jw upbringing made me dislike john denver after some things he had said about jw's in his earlier career.

i would have loved to have heard this talk back in 1980 when it was first recorded.it hits home on so many levels of what we discuss on this very forum.

everything from evolution to spirituality,humanity to religion, the ineptitude of modern politics to solve mankind's problems.the things which we allow to divide us as humans but more importantly the things which we all should allow to unite us.it is 2 hours in length but i didn't regret the time spent watching it because it was one of those things that show that he had very similar ideas,philosophies,and feelings that have been expressed on here.after what many of us have been through on our journey and trying to escape a religion that we found we were trapped/bound to in some form or another,something tells me he'd felt right at home being with us.this recording is almost 36 years old so the sound and picture quality might not be what we're accustomed to today but is so worth the watching of it.

smiddy

I will keep to watch when I have more time to do so .

smiddy

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Evil Bible

by Simon in

hadn't seen this site before, i thought i'd share it:.

http://www.evilbible.com/.

smiddy

It has been over 6000 years according to the Bible of mans creation .the first 4000 years GOD has supposedly dealt with humans by Angels , one on one in a couple of instances , dreams ,prophets , etc.

The last 2000 years he has been completely silent.

I think he`s dead

He`s certainly past his used by date.

smiddy