Where in the New Testament / the Christian Greek Scriptures , does it say in so many words that " Christians " a designation by Divine Providence , and not "Jehovah`s Witnesses" , would inherit a Paradise Earth ?
smiddy
the wt’s teaching that humans will live forever on a paradise earth will necessitate that given that there will be no more death, then immortal humans will have to be relocated to other planets in order to prevent the earth from becoming overpopulated.. so how many habitable, earth-like planets are there?more and more habitable, earth-like planets would have to become available on a continuous, never-ending basis ad infinitum as mankind’s population grows given that there will be no more death.. the longevity/sustainability of life on these planets will be limited by the fact that the sun serving these planets will eventually die:https://shar.es/1cko6n.
http://www.space.com/22437-main-sequence-stars.html#sthash.ejbt1xrz.dpuf.
so immortal humans will have to keep moving from planet to planet.
Where in the New Testament / the Christian Greek Scriptures , does it say in so many words that " Christians " a designation by Divine Providence , and not "Jehovah`s Witnesses" , would inherit a Paradise Earth ?
smiddy
hello everyone, i hope you are all ok. .
my name is conan, i am 25, and from the uk.
i have some brain damage, so i apologise in advance if my syntax is off or i go a long way around explaining things.
Hi Conan ,
Firstly : Welcome to the board , your brain seems to be functioning alright by me , you are reasoning quite well on what has been presented in the previous posts.
Secondly : Whatever you do don`t get baptized ,it will ruin your life.
Thirdly :It`s true their are many genuinely nice / good people who are J.W.`s , but that fact doesn`t mean they have the " truth" anymore than a Baptist person who is a good caring loving person has the "truth" or a Catholic person who is a good loving caring person has the "truth" or even a Muslim who is a good loving caring person , does not mean they have the "TRUTH" about religion.
If you decide not to continue your studies with your "friend" and he decides you are no longer his friend , then he is the loser not you , he was not worthy of your friendship , if that is the case.
Take care mate ,from Australia.
smiddy
the longer i am away from the cult, the more very childish and downright silly it seems in many many ways.. just another example of the childlike way they do not think things through is their obsession with "not bringing reproach on jehovah's name", that concept was used to stop jw's doing all sorts of stuff, a lot of it quite normal.. but the worst aspect of this concept is that they cover up the evil within their org any way they can.. yet they only have to look back on all the cover-ups of the past, by other religions, by politicians etc etc to see that an open acknowledgement and an open dealing with the situation at the time is far better.. cover-ups get exposed in the end, and leave you looking far worse than if dealt with honestly..
Aren`t Jehovah`s Witnesses / the Governing Body , themselves bringing reproach on GOD`s name ?
They have admitted in there own publications that the name "Jehovah" is not the correct pronunciation for the Tetragramatton YHWH , yet they insist on calling themselves Jehovah`s Witnesses , Why ?
Their reasoning :" It is the most commonly accepted name in use today"
I ask you , the most commonly accepted name , by who ? Why Christendom of course who else uses the name Jehovah.
Jehovah`s Witnesses view Christendom as the most reprehensible part of" Babylon The Great the world empire of false religion" so why would they adopt the name of GOD that Christendom bestowed upon him .?.
It would have been more credible for them to have adopted the name YAHWEH and not Jehovah
Yet they continually promote this wrong name of God world wide , bringing reproach upon his name.
smiddy
i've been using windows 7 for several years and have had no complaints.. i've tried many browsers and settled on google chrome.
it has absolutely everything i want or need.. i kept hearing about the free upgrade to windows 10, so i went to youtube and watched endless "reviews" pro and con.. what pushed me over the (microsoft edge) was the fact i could test drive the new operating system.
for 30 days and go back to windows 7 if i didn't like it!
I`m a complete computer NERD
I switched from windows7 to windows10 simply because I thought 10 was better than 7
Maybe my sub-conscience brain was still thinking JWISM
7 being earthly perfection and 10 being heavenly perfection , so why stop at 7 when you can go straight to 10
And quite frankly for what I do on my computer I can`t tell the difference .
I wish I could understand all those previous posts , about the pros and cons , but it just goes way over my head.
Is their anybody else out there like me?
Or am I the only NERD with a computer on this board.?
smiddy
so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
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Worldly persons
Spiritually weak ones
Apostates
False Religion
The" True Religion"
We have the "Truth"
Theocratic Warfare
Guardians of the truth
We have no Clergy Class ,{ Yet they claim Clergy Penintent in a Court of Law }
Jehovah God is only dealing with his Witnesses on earth to dispense truths at the proper time , all other so called Christian religions are false , apostate and lying in the power of the wicked one ( Satan the Devil)
Geoffrey Jackson at the Australian Royal Commission into Institutions of Child Sexual Abuse , when asked by Stewart Angus if Jehovah`s Witnesses believed , only they had the truth , G.J. replied and I quote " That would be presumptious of me to say that " unquote.
Calling themselves Jehovah`s Witnesses , when the Bible clearly states that followers of Jesus Christ"were by Divine providence called Christians " not Jehovah`s Witnesses .
Divine Providence means sanctioned by Jehovah. Did the Nation of Israel ever take up the name Jehovah`s Witnesses after Isaiah 43:12 was uttered ? NO of course not , that was not the intention.And Jesus never ever took them to task for not doing so.And Jesus never ever uttered the word Jehovah or the Tetragrammaton .
See" The Kingdom Interlinear Of The Christian Greek Scriptures " published by the WTB&TS a word for word translation of the Christian Greek Scriptures.
smiddy
need help finding jw material written after 1986. good day!
i am reaching out for help from those of you that know your material better than i, an outsider.
i am a baptist missionary in ukraine for 5 years now.
Welcome Psalm1611, from Australia
I hope you have success in your mission to help J.W.`s free themselves from the Borg.
In your opening post I think you meant to say Ray Franz`s two books., Fred Franz`s nephew ,minor detail.
By all means keep us updated on how you are progressing in your mission , I`m sure many of us here would like to know how you are doing.
I`m sorry that I cant be instrumental in your quest , but I`m sure many here will be able to help you.
Take care ,buddy
smiddy
when faced with awkward questions about the morality of god many christians respond by distancing themselves from the old testament and focusing on "gentle jesus meek and mild" of the new testament.. for bible-believing christians this is intellectually dishonest.. according to christian dogma jesus was the god of abraham isaac and jacob.
the logos, the alpha and omega who is "the same yesterday, today, and forever.".
he claimed that "he that has seen me has seen the father" and that "i and the father are one".. in short, christians assert that jesus is almighty god from all eternity.. it therefore follows that jesus was the god who ordered the nation of israel to take slaves as inheritable possessions.
Cold steel
"In no instance did God ever" order" the taking of slaves .He did however , allow it as it was an ancient custom .And though they could be inherited ,the Lord directed that on certain occasions and Jubilees , that the slaves be released with compensation "
Jehovah allowed the taking of slaves because it was an ancient custom of men .Seriously ?
Who is GOD here .
On certain occasions and Jubilees the slaves could be released with compensation . Big Deal
Jubilee`s occurred .every 50 years , So in reality a slave could be released when he was 50 , 60 , 70 ,80 years old , as I said before big deal , thank you Jehovah .( sarcasm intended )
As for Jehovah never committing murder , you have to be kidding.
Man , woman , child , in countless nations were put to death by the sword at the instruction of Jehovah God in the Old Testament , with the instruction" do not feel sorry for them"" Old men young men , women and children"
You are being pedantic in saying " you don`t recall the Lord using the word murder "
smiddy
i found the following story while researching the jw mindset and subsequent behavior due to their weekly exposure to mind control techniques.
the story is a bit old but it does speak volumes in terms of the mental anguish the average jw teen must endure as a jw.
links to website and original newspaper follow:.
I personally knew of a young J.W. man who committed suicide from our congregation ,such a tragedy on all levels.
smiddy
but your welcome to come as guest we just will not talk to you stupid idiot
Do J.W.`s ever invite known apostates to the memorial ? would they ever do so ? or is that a complete no,no.?
Or is one who is classed as an apostate , one that has committed the unforgivable sin .?
If they should invite you to the memorial in their D2D work and then discover you are an apostate , do they take back that invitation ? and say you are not welcome to attend ?
Just wondering
smiddy
so even though i don't drive much because public transit is so good where i live (and parking is a living nightmare), i always had a paper taped onto my glove box that said "no blood transfusions - jehovahs witness.
see legal documentation in wallet.
going through this "wake up" process as been a very crazy, emotional experience.
I have a Medical Record Card that I carry in my wallet that states , " I reject J.W.No Blood Doctrine , I accept all medical procedures including blood products.
I am also a registered Organ Donor .
I felt this was necessary because old medical history records might show up as when I was a believer and rejected blood transfusions., so I have just now dated it 5/3/2016.
smiddy