Take care cobber you have a lot of friends here that can support you in dark times , their is always a new day when the sun shines shedding new light on the darkness we sometimes feel today.
Hang in their buddy
Take care.
dear friends,.
once again my depression has got the better of me and i must bow out for a time.. "the angels sang glory to god in the highest and on earth peace unto men of goodwill'.
so if that means at this special time of the year then have a happy and safe christmas time all of you.. hugs.
Take care cobber you have a lot of friends here that can support you in dark times , their is always a new day when the sun shines shedding new light on the darkness we sometimes feel today.
Hang in their buddy
Take care.
we are currently living in a country where at the cinema the national anthem is played before the start of the movie and it is law that you stand.
does anyone know what current jw thinking is on this?
i know there has been various changes over the years.
At the ARC into Child Sexual Abuse in Institutions in Australia G.Jackson the Australian Governing Body member took an oath swearing on the Bible to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.(hand on the Bible)
A couple of the Elders that gave testimony at the same ARC opted to take an Affirmation to tell the truth rather than taking an oath swearing on the Bible.
What does that tell us ? Do the GB members/Elders even know what their current policy is ?
When I was in over 25 years ago ,standing for the National Anthem was a strict no-no ,the same with taking an oath and swearing on the Bible a definite no-no .here in Australia.
So much for their claim of being a religion of unity amongst all members.
i have a friend who said he'll have to stop listening to me after i told him about yahweh's origins in canaanite religion, because he's firm in his beliefs.. i have a mother who said she goes to the meetings even if it's wrong, and i should too.
she is also firm in her beliefs.. i have talked to an elder about evolution, and as i made the case for it and against creationism, he said that at some point i have to decide that there is a creator.
he too is firm in his beliefs.. all of these people will also talk about going out in service.
Just because a person firmly believes he/she has the truth in no way validates they have the truth.
Poor sods.
how jehovah's witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs.
by trey bundy.
reveal news.
What we need is a Julian Assange ,wikileaks type to expose the WTB&TS for all the world to see.
hi everyone, .
i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
Listener you have misunderstood the posters question .It is not referreing to the ARC transcripts.
It is asking about the court case that took place in the Latrobe Valley that Steven Unthank took against the WTB&TS where this question about the F&DS Class was raised and their answer was " it is a Theocratic Arrangement." and not related to any one particular undividual .
This took place about 5 years ago.
I hope that clears up any confusion.
hi all, kind of news i suppose.. fyi, 10/12/2016 at melton assembly hall.
1,266 in attendance.. two 15 yo, one male one female baptised.. costs for the day, $6,951:00 .
before costs contribution to sydney branch office from last assembly surplus $3,000:00. jtg.
Wow 2 15 year old kids got baptised ,how Jah is speeding up the work.LOL
hi everyone, .
i have been trying really hard to find the court case transcript where steven unthank was in court in australia and one of the wt lawyers or a wt spokesperson said the faithful and discreet slave does not exist.. i hope that this is correct i remember reading about this a long while back and would love to get evidence of this.. i found steven on facebook and messaged him about 6 months ago and he didn't respond, he probably wants to let all this go, and i don't blame him for that.. any suggestions would be very much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
WGO ,if you use the search button at the top of the page and type in Steven Unthank F&DS it will take you to a wealth of info .
Barbara Anderson has a thorough analysis of the subject there,as well as Koolaid.
what do you believe , is a confessional something that is sacred between the the two parties involved ?
or does it depend on the severity of the crime/sin.. or is their a responsability of the recpient of the confession to divulge what he/she knows about the crime.?.
what we see in movies ,tv, etc shows it is a no no .but is that true ?the confessional is only between the two involved.?.
What do you believe , is a confessional something that is sacred between the the two parties involved ? or does it depend on the severity of the crime/sin.
Or is their a responsability of the recpient of the confession to divulge what he/she knows about the crime.?
What we see in movies ,Tv, etc shows it is a no no .but is that true ?The confessional is only between the two involved.?
How many crimes have gone unpunished because of these archaic policies .
If you had become aware of a crime within the organization would you have reported it to the authorities or only to the Elders.?
If it is only to the Elders it may never go any further , if it is only to a priest it may never go any further..
And the victims never get justice for the crimes committed against them.
where did all the witnesses over the decades get the idea that armageddon was right around the corner?
the society certainly never put anything like that down in print:
*** w56 10/15 p. 614 when will gods kingdom come?
Excuse me folks , Armageddon has been coming for the past 2000 years and it is nowhere in sight , let alone just around the corner .
GEEEEZZZEEEE
my hairdresser warned me that he had taken on a jw apprentice and asked me what i thought.
she attends the kh that disfellowhipped me.
i told him that i would have to be careful about what i said concerning my personal life as she would report back anything she heard to the elders.
I knew an Elders wife formerly missionaries in PNG who`s wife had a beauty Salon on the mainland Aust. and gave brazillian hair removals on female clients .
Personally I dont see anything wrong with it , but would other Elders have a problem with it ?
Would you have ?