Posts by smiddy

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Apostasy endorsed in this yesterday's Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.

it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.

jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.

smiddy

new information may provide us with a valid reason to adjust a decision. King David was given faulty information about Saul’s grandson Mephibosheth. When David later received accurate information, he amended his decision.

So prior to our Baptism x amount of years ago the information we recieved then is no longer applicable so we now have a valid reason to adjust our decision because we recieved faulty information and we have amended our decision .

So how the bloody hell are we deemed apostates ?

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The new personality

by longgone in

i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.

i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.

the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.

smiddy

From my experience of 33 years in the Borg as a convert in more than 6 congregations ,I didnt observe anyone striving to put on a new Personality Looking back on it now ,I dont think anybody took that scripture seriously .

As a group of people they were no different from any other worldly class of people with their own idiosyncrasys,judgemental ,self righteous sometimes arrogant ,know it all,obnoxious behaviour .

Of course not everybody was like me.their were a few and I emphasize "few" who were genuinely nice helpful people.They were a rarity.

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Australia: Ex-JW charged with alleged historic child abuse offences

by darkspilver in

fyi.

wa today com au, 12 may 2017. former wa jehovah witness charged with alleged historic child abuse offences .

a former member of the jehovah witness congregation will appear in court next week after he was charged with sexually assaulting four boys.. the charges stem from ongoing investigations linked to the royal commission into institutional child sexual offences.. police allege between 1993 to 2013, the 44-year-old man sexually assaulted four boys aged between 14 and 16 at the time of the offences.. read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html.

smiddy

Kramer

I wasnt thinking of any specific Australian Law about clergy or Citizens being mandated to report allegations of any crime .

Where did I say that ?

What I was inferring to is that according to the ARC the Elders at this enquiry had an" obligation" both morally and legally to report these 1006 cases of alleged child sexual abuse that the judicial committees oversaw in those previous decades

Not only did they fail the victims in the congregation they also failed every other child in that congregation where the abuse occured.by not warning the families of the potential danger to their children.

And the other thing that was brought out in the ARC was the fact that these Elders had no regard for the children in the general community where the Kingdom Hall was situated , non Jehovahs Witness children ,apparently they had no regard for whether these children would be subjected to sexual abuse because they are not jehovahs witnesses and and not our responsability.

So the general community around a Kingdom Hall where sexual abuse occured was not informed of the potential danger to their children by any of the Elders.

The Governing Body of Jehovahs Witnesses have not only failed their own children in their care they have also failed the children in the wider community and their familys.

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Review of Awake Magazine: Philosophy 101: How to Construct a Logical Syllogism

by Saename in

this morning my brother and my mother (whom i mentioned in my previous topic when we had a conversation about evolution) visited a jehovah's witness, and when they returned, they returned with the awake!

magazine that they received from the witness.

the magazine is entitled, "is the bible really from god?

smiddy

Constructing a logical syllogism

1. All men are mortal

2. Jesus was a man

3.Jesus is mortal

And then their is this.

1.The Bible contains prophecies about the future

2.All of the prophecies contained in the Bible about the future have proved to be innaccurate .

3.Therefore the Bible was not inspired by God

Thank you for the post saename , indeed food for thought

"Syllogism" I learn something everyday on this board

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Lets be honest, not a little leery of the resurrected ones????

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

maybe i have watched too many zombie movies but i would sleep with one eye open, inquire to see what is your favored menu,do you sleep walk, are your body parts functioning properly (i would hate to shake your hand and it fall off).

your wife never married after 10 years and now you are back, can you perform in the marriage bed?

?it would be hard for me to sleep at nights with someone that have been dead for over one year sleeping next to me.

smiddy

Didnt they teach the resurrected ones would neither marry or be given in marriage ? So there would then be three classes of people living on the earth males,females and the walking dead made alive.

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WT Quote of the Day

by berrygerry in

wt jan 15, 1985. these loyal subjects of god’s government have no crime problem among themselves, .

smiddy

There are a few sites you can go to that show crime among Active Jehovahs Witnesses is no less than the average community and may even be greater .

Google "Crimes committed by Jehovahs Witnesses" and their are a number of sites showing the extent of crimes worldwide where JW`s have been charged and convicted .

And the lists are extensive.from murder to petty crimes as well as pedophiles ,robberies ,extortion ,domestic violence ,etc,etc.

And if you bring this subject up with a JW and they say well if they did do these things then they wernt really a JW .

Your answer should be so I guess their are no Catholics in jail either because if they were true catholics they wouldnt do those things.

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Saudi Man Sentenced To Death For Atheism

by Bangalore in

saudi man sentenced to death for atheism.. http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-man-sentenced-death-after-declaring-himself-atheist-online-video-591473.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-man-sentenced-death-atheism-ahmad-al-shamri-hafar-al-batin-appeal-denied-a7703161.html.

smiddy

Doesnt saudi have public executions for "crimes" such as atheism,Apostacy,Adultery,and if a woman is raped she is the one victimised ?

And that women are second class citizens ,needing a mans OK to venture out ,arent permitted to drive a car ,and need a chaperone for being in the presence of another man who is not a relative ? etc,etc,

I know the generation that is mid-twenties and they are far different in viewpoint about a lot of things from the next generation.

That might be well and true ,but it is the ruling power that holds the key and they arent going to give that up any time soon.

So saudi`s remain in the distant past except where it suits the wealthy male saudis to bend the rules when they are outside of their country. (Alcohol ,women,gambling ,prostitution etc )

feel free to correct me where I`m wrong.

The Saudis are now on the UN council for womens human rights !?

My mind boggles.

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Australia: Ex-JW charged with alleged historic child abuse offences

by darkspilver in

fyi.

wa today com au, 12 may 2017. former wa jehovah witness charged with alleged historic child abuse offences .

a former member of the jehovah witness congregation will appear in court next week after he was charged with sexually assaulting four boys.. the charges stem from ongoing investigations linked to the royal commission into institutional child sexual offences.. police allege between 1993 to 2013, the 44-year-old man sexually assaulted four boys aged between 14 and 16 at the time of the offences.. read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html.

smiddy

A few queastions I would like to ask.

Were these allegations of child sexual abuse brought before the congregation at the time or after the alleged offences occured ? And before the Australian Royal Commission was conducted ?

If so ,did the judicial committee look into these allegations and come to a decision on the investigation ?

If the congregation was aware of these allegations at any time , did they notify either the police or child Protection Authorities of these allegations ?

And last but not least : If their was a JC into these allegations and the at least three Elders concerned did not notify the appropiate authorities about these abuses ,why arent they being charged with some offence failing to protect children under their care.,withholding a criminal offence against a minor,obstructing justice or something .

Jehovahs Witnesses have a history of failing sexually abused children in their congregations all around the world and all Governments seem to sidestep the problem and dont tackle the cause of the problem,the policys that govern child sexual abuse among Jehovahs Witnesses and the way they deal with such allegations .

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How do the GB micro-manage people's lives today?

by UnshackleTheChains in

how do the gb micro-manage people's lives today?one example is their micro management in dress and grooming.

eg their view of beards.

elders in most congs will take a brother to a corner and remind him why jws don't grow beards.

smiddy

If I remember correctly it was in a Kingdom Ministry article.

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Different Types Of Abuse

by Amanda Moore in

there is alot if press here in australua on the royal commission about child abuse in the jw faith.

however that is just one type of abuse, abuse can be physical or mental, we tend to forget about the various types of mental abuse in the jw faith.

my story is not unique and apologies for grammar etc.. my father and mother emigrated to perth australia many decades ago when i was very young.

smiddy

Welcome Amanda from a fellow aussie.That was a very sad but very true first post , I`m sure you will get a lot of helpful encouragement from many on this forum.The first thing you need to do is take control of your own life .

You dont owe anybody else anything,live the rest of your life the way you want to live from this day on. I wish you all the best in your freedom from this WT cult.