Thanks for that info Dreamerdude ,that just shows how corrupt and dishonest these people really are , its all about power .
Rationalising what they formerly believed to what they now believe to stay in power.
42years have passed since the great 1975 expectation delivered nothing.
blame for the expectations laid at feet of the faithful, 'it's your fault , you believed us so you are responsible for the let down'.
i have asked this previously and repeat the point, where were the current members of the governing body, 43 years ago.
Thanks for that info Dreamerdude ,that just shows how corrupt and dishonest these people really are , its all about power .
Rationalising what they formerly believed to what they now believe to stay in power.
the watchtower has held for many years that jesus died on a stake and held strongly to this teaching.
w 1951 3/15 the above agrees with the new world translation of the christian greek scriptures in its appendix, page 769, in saying that the instrument upon which jesus was nailed was a stake without a crossbeam, and not the religiously represented “cross”; and that the greek word used for that instrument in ancient time meant a “stake” and not the conventional religious cross.
they are no longer certain on this point.
"1.God rejecs worship that uses symbols or images including the cross"
Does that also include using the Tetragrammaton displayed in some kingdom halls ?
How about the JW.ORG logo used so widely now ? and worn as badges and pins and other paraphenalia?
So they still lean heavily on the belief Jesus died on a stake and not on a cross-beam.
so i am driving with my oldest the other day and she says..... i was reading the watchtower at the meeting and thought.... "the watchtower and awake are just like... what is that stuff that countries put out when they are at war?...
propaganda... yeah, they only give you one side of something and you have to listen to them because they are chosen".
i praised allah right then and there!!!
Great post ,if only I had that nouse when i was 19 years of age .
Well at least I did wake up 33 years later .
Your oldest does have the smarts ,kudos to her.
found this little gem of an article in the june 15, 2011 wt.... should youths get baptized?“i am so happy that my daughter is now a servant of jehovah, and i know that she is happy too,” said carlos, a christian father in the philippines.
a father from greece wrote: “my wife and i are delighted that our three children were baptized as jehovah’s witnesses during their adolescence.
they are making spiritual progress and are happy about serving jehovah.”christian parents have reason to be overjoyed when their children get baptized, but sometimes the joy is accompanied by uneasiness.
Jehovahs witness children being baptised and then committing a sin in the eyes of the JW organization and then being subjected to sanctions and or shunning ,should be considered and recognised as child abuse by the organisation and prosecuted for such abuse.
alexandra james posted: "the state of victoria, in australia, is moving forward with a new law that is meant to protect victims of child sex abuse, including when such incidents happen within a religious setting.
according to the "reportable conduct scheme" that has just been ena" respond to this post by replying above this line.
new post on jwvictims.org .
I`m a little surprised this news hasnt generated more positive comment ?
Isnt this news a big step in the right direction ? worthy of a celebration?
i realize this is odd, but a "how you woke up" thread and the personal stories that are told which i know we all enjoy, made me think of this.
in helping my wife and a couple others get the ball rolling, i realized the thing that resonated with me, didn't even move the needle with them.
i wanted to rail on and on about blood, because that was my conduit to waking up, but for my wife it was about shunning.
What did not get me out ?
Things that should have.
In the first year of my conversion ,hanky panky going on with a married bro and a pioneer sister.
Not long after in another congregation voting was taking place to change the Sunday meeting times to a morning or afternoon this went on for succesive weeks until the PO got the result he wanted and that was it.
Questionable business dealings between self employed Elders and brothers.
The lead up to 1975 and the denial of the GB they were anyway responsible .
an interesting link that notes how jw (and mormon) door-to-door evangelism has dropped off:.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/where-have-all-the-jehovahs-witness-and-mormons-gone/news-story/35adc0d46c1b3c1d7cafca6d69dbb900.
the aussie writer notices that instead they have "set up a stall in the carpark at the supermarket.".
Same problem Black sheep cant read it unless your a subscriber.
jehovah’s witnesses are assisting victims of a catastrophic fire that engulfed the grenfell tower, a 24-story apartment building in the north kensington area of london, in the early morning hours of june 14, 2017. authorities are reporting that at least 79 people were killed.. four witnesses were evacuated from the apartment building, two of whom were residents of grenfell tower.
fortunately, none of them were injured, although the witnesses’ apartments were among those completely destroyed in the blaze.
witnesses that live near the now fire-gutted apartment building provided food, clothing, and monetary aid to their fellow members and their families that were affected.
JW ,Mindset :
Why would we give support to those who are part of Satans system of things that jehovah is going to destroy at armagwddon.?
If we did that we would be supporting Satan and become an enemy of Jehovah and Christ Jesus..
watchtower october 2017, par 11, page 28 - "very soon the political powers of satan’s world will form a coalition that is bent on the destruction of god’s people.
's] have anything to fear?
not at all!........at that critical moment during the great tribulation, the angelic soldiers of jehovah of armies will come together to protect god’s people..."[j.w.
Oh Hum here we go again , same ole same ole ,C.T.Russell before the end of the 18th Century .
Joe rutherford and his resurrection of faithfull men of old in 1925 such as Abraham Isaac and Jacob,etc.
Umpteen times in the 20th Century 1925 ,1939-45 ,1975 and the following years just after that date , ,before the end of the 20th Century ,soon now ,soon now ,soon ,now.
IBSA members who didnt expect to die in this system of things.of the late 1800`s
JW`s in Joe Rutherfords day who didnt expect to die .
And everybody else since who didnt expect to die before Armageddon or the Great tribulation came and they are all dead.Up until this year of 2017 .
2000 years ago Jesus was coming QUICKLY ,how quick is quickly I ask you.
Or does all of this just go over the head of Jehovahs Witnesses.
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I dont see any benefit in this suggestion simply because JW`s are irrelevant in society , nobody gives a stuff about them nor takes any notice of them.
As I said they are irrelevant ,once a householder closes the door they are completely forgotten about.
Its true what has been said before the only ones who are interested in what goes on/happens in JW land is the JW `s themselves or ex-JW`s
Nobody else gives them a second thought.
And they are such an insignificant group , a minority amongst minorities.they just dont count , period.
Ask anybody in your street what JW`s believe , they wouldnt have a clue except to say they dont belive in blood transfusions.
Is that what JW`s have been preaching about for the past 140 years ? I dont think so
It just goes to show how effective they have been in their preaching work .