hi everyone, i am new to this board so everyone flame me and send viruses to welcome me (or you can send money to the bendrr goes to the bahamas fund).. i have a question that may have come up before but i have been off the internet for a while and have not been to this site before at all.
my question is regarding one's file with the cong after dissfellowshipping.
is more information gathered after the df and added to the file?
The society is notified in writing of all disfellowshippings and that information is placed on orange cards at Bethel. They are kept forever. Even after you are long dead.
Ray Franz has reported comments from people saying that the society must be the only religious organization that keeps records on people long after they have died.
So even after one dies, one cannot run away from the Watchtower Printing and Money-Laundering Corporation.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Farkel
could this possibly be what dubs will be doing in 2005?.
http://farkel.0catch.com.
farkel
: Great to see an obviously polished, mainstream cartoonist has recently come up with a clever and funny piece about the futility of waiting for the Wathtower's ever-imminent end of the world.
Uh, I ever-so-slightly modified the cartoon by changing the date from 1984 to 1975. It wasn't originally about dubs at all.
It just looked too good to resist changing it to fit dubs, though.
Farkel
on page 132 of the knowledge book it says: who are the "superior authorities"?
paaul's words in succeeding verses show that they are human governmental authorities.
(romans 13:1-7; titus 3:1) jehovah did not originateman's governmental authorities, but they exist by his permission.
: Satan is truly in control of this world and therefore was able to have Jesus killed
Horsepucky. Using that logic, Satan was acting as God's agent and doing God's will. Had Satan tried to stop Jesus from being killed, there would be no salvation for any of us. Ever. It was "God's" provision to have his own son murdered. It was his "loving" way of providing salvation for us all. HAHAHAHAHA!
And by the way, Judas Iscariot was ALSO doing God's will by fulfilling prophecy. Had he not done what he did, the prophecy of Jesus being betrayed for 30 pieces of silver would have failed and God would have been a liar. Had not Judas done the deed, someone ELSE would have HAD to have done the deed. But it doesn't matter, who ever did the deed was doing God's will by fulfilling prophecy.
It makes about as much sense to me as your average Watchtower study article.
Farkel
for those of you who haven`t been following it,the wts is in a downward spiral here in japan.fs hours are down,memorial attendance.
is down,pioneers are down,studies are down,donations are down,number.
of congregations is down and the number of publishers continues to.
: One point that stuck out in my mind in this weekend's 1-day CA, was the emphasis put on "there are no rules in the WTS, only principles",
Of course, this is EXACTLY what Orwell's book 1984 said. There are no rules in Oceana. But everyone knew what to do and not to do. Those who did what they were not supposed to do simply disappeared, never to be seen again. All this happened, but there were no rules!
Farkel
you are not a jehovah witness, are you?
are you a jehovah witness?.
and it's not "jehovah witness.
I see he's one of those modern JWs who has elected to get a good education. He almost made it to 4th grade.
Farkel
well, folks.
i just had a minor epiphany.
its a wonder it never dawned on me before, because it should have been so obvious.. we can forget about doing any more research or any more exegesis.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
To Maximus:
: Farkel, since you are such a talented pianist, you will appreciate the barbarous musical plagiarism of Beethoven's "Appassionata" in the old songbook.
Yes. I commented about that one further up in this thread. It was "Extending Mercy to Others." I don't mind the plagiarism, but here's what I really DO mind: if you look at the top of the score it says, "With a Lilt!" No kidding! That's the only dub song I can ever remember saying that for the tempo. Now, Beethoven would literally roll over in his grave if someone said to play the first movement of the Apassionata sonata with "a lilt." I play all three movements of the Apassionata and it is one of his finest middle-period sonatas. Majestic, passionate and stormy. But "with a lilt?" I would personally shoot the bastard who put that phrase as a way to sing/play Beethoven! It's downright immoral!
: But finally that all went down the drain, including the piano player at local meetings. It was a service privilege generally given to sisters, remember? I recall serving a congregation with one old sister who once played honky-tonk in her youth and shall we say, took liberties with the Kingdom songs. All that was missing was a cigarette hanging out of her lips. It was great!
I (ahem!) was probably one of the exceptions. From the time I was twelve until I left the WTS at age 25, I always played the piano at the KH, at all funerals, weddings and wedding receptions. I even played at a few circuit assemblies when the orchestra was either too pathetic, or was unable to play.
Whenever I moved to a new congregation there was always a sister (usually ancient) who had played the songs for years at the hall. The first time she was sick and couldn't show up, I mentioned that I could play and got the chance to do so. The next time she/they showed up, she/they were "fired" and I always got the job. Looking back, it was kind of cruel the way that they handled it. All I did was just play a lot better than they did, though.
I too, would jazz up Kingdom Songs. The congregation loved it. I was counseled by more than one Circuit Overseer that it was "too much" for the dignity of the song. As soon as the CO left our congregation to harass some other poor congregation, I went right back to my old style.
Those idiotic COs must have thought that Jehovah loved dirges, or something.
Farkel
well today june 6th marks my dad's one year anniversry from being df'd!!!
whoohoooo!!.
i can't belive it's been that long in some regards, but it seems like i've known you folks for years.
I loved it, Venice!
People are now PUBLICLY CELEBRATING being DF'd and the whole world can see it! I just love it!
If those old pukes in Brooklyn had enough wits about themselves to see that people are not only GLAD to be kicked out of their idiotic cult, they are shouting JOY, JOY, JOY about it to the entire world.
You just gotta smile about that. That iron grip the society has held on the throats of its worshipers is rapidly loosening. When you couple that with people who've been kicked out who brazenly walk up to self-righteous dubs and say, "You don't shun me. I shun YOU, jerkweed!", is something I would have never dreamed possible even a decade ago.
Tell your dad my hat is off to him. (Although I don't actually HAVE a hat.)
Farkel
the story of moses.
everyone, it seems knows the story of moses, how he sent plagues down on the egyptians and eventually led the hebrew people to the promised land.. i question the authenticity of this story and find it rather interesting how the story has been further embellished in the recent blockbuster disney movie, the prince of egypt.. according to some scholars, moses is a suffix meaning "son of" and it is found in many egyptian names, such as tuthmosis (son of thoth) and ramesses (son of ra.).
in the bible, moses' mother hid her baby son in a basket in the reeds along the river bank.
The story of of a man named "Moses" is pretty much a myth. I should know. I'm an expert on the subject. Even modern-day ultra-orthodox Jewish scholars believe the 40 years in the wilderness story is myth.
Through vigorous research I discovered that the man who the Bible calls "Moses," was really named "CharletonHeston," which in Hebrew means "Be prepared. Always pack a loaded sidearm."
His faithful sidekick who also became the first Judge of Israel was not named "Joshua," either. That was a corruption by scribes unfaithful to the original texts. The first Judge of Israel was really a man named "JohnDerek," who preferred tall, beautiful blond woman with high rib-cages and nice firm.....nevermind.
Finally, there is virtually no evidence that the Hebrews trekked for forty years in the wilderness: no bones, no shards of pottery, no petrified poop. There is nothing that amounts to evidence that such a large throng of people were ever encamped in the wilderness at all. Oh, there is some evidence that appears to be old movie sets dated circa 1956, but those artifacts are still under review and the carbon dating results on not yet conclusive.
Hope that helps.
Farkel
the story of moses.
everyone, it seems knows the story of moses, how he sent plagues down on the egyptians and eventually led the hebrew people to the promised land.. i question the authenticity of this story and find it rather interesting how the story has been further embellished in the recent blockbuster disney movie, the prince of egypt.. according to some scholars, moses is a suffix meaning "son of" and it is found in many egyptian names, such as tuthmosis (son of thoth) and ramesses (son of ra.).
in the bible, moses' mother hid her baby son in a basket in the reeds along the river bank.
Duplicate post. Ignore.
seems to me that we've seen the rise of a new genus of human-like creature over the last century:.
cephalomorticus.
this is evolution in action!.
Good one!
Should Simon ever cramp down on insults, at least we now have a great way to say "braindead" and get away with it! (And of course, we can't forget the Maximums (or Gedanken) classic: Mentula flaccidus!)
cephalomorticus trollimusmaximus - LurkerNoMore
cephalomorticus believeanyoldshiticus- Yer Average Dub
cephalomorticus needssomenookieus - Logical
cephalomorticus voicesspeaktous - Aguest, kes
cephalomorticus bullyallofus - Yer Average CO
cephalomorticus inyourfaceicus - Focus
cephalomorticus coveritupimus - Ted Jaracz
Farkel
