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  Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?

  by DubR in

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  hiya guys and gals.

  im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??

  it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!

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  lrkr

  and Happy Festivus

  for the rest of us.
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  Letting Go of God on SHOWTIME this week

  by tinker in

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  2. bible

  if you have showtime channels everybody should watch this program, letting go of god.

  raised roman catholic, comic julia sweeney chronicles her conversion to atheism.. it will be on today at 5:30, again thur at 5:00pm.

  the show is insightful but also entertaining.

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  I stumbled on this show last week. Really great! Wife was irritated by the outright athiesm at the end- but that's because she's still a believer (not a JW- but a "theist")- told me I just liked watching material that confirms my beliefs.
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  Has any other GB member achieved a university degree aside from Lloyd Barry?

  by DNCall in

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  i can't think of one.

  anyone .

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  How about "Judge" Rutherford. I'm guessing he had a college degree.
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  Has any other GB member achieved a university degree aside from Lloyd Barry?

  by DNCall in

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  i can't think of one.

  anyone .

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  What was Barry's degree in?? Japanese?
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  Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.

  http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!

  note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.

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  Campus is an architectural term. Dont get caught up in fighting about that. Just like some homes have "cathedral ceilings" even those owned by JWs.
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  Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.

  http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!

  note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.

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  Please post lots of comments on the newspaper's webpage. The link to the page is circulating among active witnesses around the states. The right comment or link to this site might spark their curiosity!
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  Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.

  by koolaid-man in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.

  http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!

  note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.

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  If you really want to fight this- dont fight as a former member- fight as a concerned taxpayer. There is a taxpayer revolt on in much of the country and rural NY is no different. Some longstanding incumbents were turned out in November. Most people dont care about religion or truth or politics- they care about money. The only winning fight against this will be to point out the huge impact on roads, land, etc with NO tax benefit. Another large parcel of land permanently off the tax rolls. (Then they will just find another location, though- I suspect that Warwick is the OTHER location- Ramapo really has no desire for another large non-profit sucking up resources and paying no taxes.)
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  Watchtower Headquarters Planning the Big Move

  by Kenneson in

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  see "jehovah's witnesses moving to warwick".

  http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20091116/news/911160318.

  http://www.townofwarwick.org.

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  Warwick and Ramapo??? The two sites are about 30 minutes apart!! Did Ramapo not work out- or are they on a land grab tear??
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  Christmas

  by PSacramento in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure there is a topic already abput this somewhere, but i am too lazy to search so i beg your indulgence :).

  my little one sofia asked me about christmas the other day ( she is 6) and of course she mentioned how grandma said that christmas is not the day jesus was born and that it is a pagan day !!!.

  * pause for thunderclap*.

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  How about this- I dont believe Jesus was born on 12/25, I dont really even accept that his life really had any of the religious significance ascribed by the 4 gospels- but I really love christmas.

  Its so great to have a tree in the house, have some time off to rejoice with friends, contemplate the next years goals and aspirations. Its for a reason the people have celebrated at this time of year for the last 3000 years. (PS- I dont believe in Saturn either- but I don't hold it against the romans for celebrating his day)
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  Can a JW join the Rotary Club?

  by Open mind in

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  2. beliefs

  i've looked at the rotary web site and the most damning thing i can find is that they have a history of working closely with the un.. .

  but that shouldn't be a problem for watchtower right?.

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  I really like being part of the Rotary. It is a way to meet community leaders in a low pressure setting. We salute the flag, have a convocation before lunch, sponsor an annual holiday tree lighting, sponsor a Memorial Day parade and have an annual holiday party. I'm guessing an active JW would have a problem with this stuff!!!

  Most of all JW's dont like Rotary because of our 4 way test- recited at the beginning of each meeting: Is it the truth? Is it fair to all concerned? Will it build good will and better friendships? Will it be beneficial to all concerned?

  JWs fail on all 4 counts!