My understanding was that the NY corporation was originally a way for Russell to make sure his wife (who was getting divorced from him) could not get any of the assets in the corporation (that they had built together.) The modern explanation is as AT Jeff states above- but in the book "The Four Presidents" it seems to insinuate that the move was actually just a move to hide assets.
Posts by lrkr
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7What's the difference between "Watch Tower" of PA and "Watchtower" NY?
by paul from cleveland inwhat is the reason for being incorporated in two states and why is the pa corp. two words (watch tower) and the ny corp. one word (watchtower)?
thanks.
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Apostate Brainstorming Session
by AllTimeJeff ini have been meaning to bring this up for a long time.. sometimes, i think we (former jw's) who are very rightly concerned about all the lies of the governing body have some great ideas about how to expose jehovah's witnesses.. some of us have very passionate and distinct ideas.
not a few of us have websites with our own personalities evident.. i don't wish this to get personal.
even if i disagree with some presentations or rhetoric of some, i know that it is sincere.
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Personally, the free minds website and Ray Franz books were the most powerful items I came across. I think everyone will be touched in a different way and so there is a need for every possible type of publicity. I think there can never be enough websites, discussion groups, books, articles, comments on newpaper pages about witnesses, blogs, facebook postings, etc. In marketing we say you have to touch someone 7 times to make your point. So the more stuff that is out there- the better.
Obviously, you have to be very careful not to trigger the defense mechanisms of JWs- so common sense, facts and non-adversarial methods are usually more effective. It is also helpful if people come across apostate information when they are not looking for it- which is why I say commenting on news media websites when they have an article about JWs is a great idea. JWs circulate links to these articles all the time.
PS- ATJ- we know people in common- PM me sometime and I'll elaborate.
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10 page book reports
by lrkr injust a memory.
when i was growing up- i was in the school band- played the trumpet.
our band marched in 2 parades a year- thanksgiving day and st. patricks day.
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Just a memory. When I was growing up- I was in the school band- played the trumpet. Our band marched in 2 parades a year- Thanksgiving day and St. Patricks day. The rule was that any kid who didn't march had to write a 10 page book report instead. So guess what I did??
Every spring and every fall I spent a few days in the library and did a 10 page book report. No marching in pagan holiday parades for this good little JW boy.
No wonder I quit band in the 7th grade!!
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Why do Ex-JWs start celebrating pagan Christmas?
by DubR inhiya guys and gals.
im not trying to be self-righteous but i want to understand the thought process of someone who knows the origins of christmas, but starts celebrating it (putting up christmas tree, exchanging wrapped gifts; repeating merry christmas to everyone they see in the month of december)??
it seems very silly to me (imo) after knowing how and why christmas was created (to cater to pagans sun worship and convert to christianity)!!
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and Happy Festivus
for the rest of us.
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Letting Go of God on SHOWTIME this week
by tinker inif you have showtime channels everybody should watch this program, letting go of god.
raised roman catholic, comic julia sweeney chronicles her conversion to atheism.. it will be on today at 5:30, again thur at 5:00pm.
the show is insightful but also entertaining.
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I stumbled on this show last week. Really great! Wife was irritated by the outright athiesm at the end- but that's because she's still a believer (not a JW- but a "theist")- told me I just liked watching material that confirms my beliefs.
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Has any other GB member achieved a university degree aside from Lloyd Barry?
by DNCall ini can't think of one.
anyone .
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lrkr
How about "Judge" Rutherford. I'm guessing he had a college degree.
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Has any other GB member achieved a university degree aside from Lloyd Barry?
by DNCall ini can't think of one.
anyone .
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What was Barry's degree in?? Japanese?
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Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.
by koolaid-man ina recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.
http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!
note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.
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Campus is an architectural term. Dont get caught up in fighting about that. Just like some homes have "cathedral ceilings" even those owned by JWs.
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Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.
by koolaid-man ina recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.
http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!
note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.
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Please post lots of comments on the newspaper's webpage. The link to the page is circulating among active witnesses around the states. The right comment or link to this site might spark their curiosity!
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Write letters to citizens of Warwick New York exposing the Watchtower org.
by koolaid-man ina recent newspaper article in the warwick new york newspaper uncovers the plans for the watchtower society to move out of brooklyn new york and set up their world headquarters in warwick.
http://www.strausnews.com/articles/2009/11/25/warwick_advertiser/news/2.txt the citizens of warwick and the surrounding communities should be exposed to what the watchtower society really is, a dangerous and destructive cult!
note in the newspapers link comments made at the end of the article from concerned readers warning the community to really think twice before permitting the watchtower org.
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lrkr
If you really want to fight this- dont fight as a former member- fight as a concerned taxpayer. There is a taxpayer revolt on in much of the country and rural NY is no different. Some longstanding incumbents were turned out in November. Most people dont care about religion or truth or politics- they care about money. The only winning fight against this will be to point out the huge impact on roads, land, etc with NO tax benefit. Another large parcel of land permanently off the tax rolls. (Then they will just find another location, though- I suspect that Warwick is the OTHER location- Ramapo really has no desire for another large non-profit sucking up resources and paying no taxes.)