if you think the mormon church is off-the-scale crazy you probably don't know the half of it.. the historical information in this talk by david fitzgerald is fascinating.
the good news is that, just like the watchtower, their growth is being stunted by the internet.. grab a coffee and be amazed at just how gullible millions of people can be.. lucy harris has become my new heroine.
don't miss the section from 8:50.
Truly an amazing story about the power of delusion, belief, charisma etc. If it didn't adversely impact so many lives Mormonism would be a fascinating sociological experiment.
Also, less than 200 years after its founding (at a time with relatively high literacy and printing presses) the lines between legend and fact are very blurred. Makes you think about how the Christian religion itself must have layered legend upon legend.
here we go again... let's study... news report... comment.... who is gog of magog mentioned in the book of ezekiel?.
for a number of years, our publications have explained that gog of magog is the name given to satan the devil after his ouster from heaven.
this explanation was based on the fact that the book of revelation identifies satan the devil as the leader of the worldwide attack on gods people.
on jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
Also interesting that they are backing off from the old "universities are dens of immortality and drugs" and saying what they really are scared of "they will change your thinking"
So sad that if someone knows "The Truth" about everything they have to be careful not to spend too much time with people who think differently.
on jw tv.
anthony morris is ranting against higher education.
he is blaming parents for enrolling their kids in college.
Interesting that they haven't published anything on the subject in almost 10 years and aren't publishing anything now. Just a video that can be pulled or disclaimed. "We're emphasizing divine education" "decision is up to the parents"
Because maybe they don't want to be blamed for a child living in poverty after following their rules (I know- I kinda doubt that too....)
The LOL moment for me- "now the child believes in evolution...how sad"
i didn't know the wtbts had an order.
anyone ever heard of the "order of full time servants" aka "the order" within the jehovah's witnesses?.
(below is a legal document from the wtbts).
There are legal and tax protections for religious orders and their members. That's why they use this language. When you are a Bethelite the accounting office prepares your taxes and includes language about the Order.
http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.
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So why not go one step further and admit that the illustration of a "faithful and discreet slave" may NOT refer to a group of 21st century self proclaimed religious leaders living in New York???? It might just be a teaching that had entirely 1st century application??
Slippery slope when they start to dismantle the Freddie doctrines!
i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.
i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.
did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?
My wife was mentally out but I was an elder and the congregation secretary. 3 things pushed me over the edge: 1- counting up all the publishers time seemed like an excessive waste of time and tracking of something that was not very meaningful. 2- I had trouble seeing myself as the guy going around telling everyone that the world was going to end. There were too many logical questions abut the Armageddon and new system teachings. 3- you guys, open minds.com and COC lifted the vail.
So yes. I had help.
http://montrealgazette.com/life/turning-the-page-homosexuals-like-you-in-tight-pants-jehovahs-witness-leader-says-reportsturning the page: 'homosexuals like you in tight pants,' jehovah's witness leader says reportsjillian page, montreal gazette more from jillian page, montreal gazette.
published on: november 12, 2014 last updated: november 12, 2014 11:33 pm est.
skin-tight pants are a no-no in public, church leader says,.
I think putting GB talks online will do more to undermine this organization than 100 JWNs could ever do. The rank and file have no idea how out of touch the organizations leadership is.
Can't wait for some crazy Loesch rant to go viral. ("Wives craving", "women taking too long of strides" - just a few of the Bethel clasics)
one of two things will happen.
i'll get disfellowshipped and never have to worry about being "told on" again for living a normal life, or; they won't do anything.. either way, it's freeing and i feel relieved... it will be sad if i get disfellowshipped but i've come to terms and made peace with it as much as can be expected.
it's a huge weight to have off.. was told on a week ago and haven't heard anything.
Congratulations on your courage Cognac. No matter where this goes you'll be better off. Seeing the impact the borg would have on my son was all I needed to get out. Had a birthday party for him, got ratted out, left and haven't looked back.
He's 15 now and thinks he's too cool for trick or treating but I got out in time to give him 7 years of normal Halloween fun!
i've been thinking about audrey mock knorr hyde since i heard about her death some weeks ago.
i met her while at watchtower farms in the early eighties.
i knew her second husband glen before alzheimers really began to take its toll.
Spent some time at WTF too. She was always fun to talk to.
