This has also been my experience. Most elders really do not want to get into it. A few stories, show some love and out the door. Maybe some "comforting words." But don't make them work.
Posts by lrkr
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18Had The Shepparding Call Last Night
by cognac init actually was no big deal.
there was only 1 scriptures read and it was in psalms.
btw, i was kidding about spiking there drink, lol.
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WTS and their legal costs
by heyfea indoes anyone know if the wts' lawyers are witnesses who work (volunteer for free) in bethel?
or are they non-witnesses lawyers who charge the wts for their legal service?
if the latter is the case, then, isn't the wts stealing from the dubs.
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lrkr
There is a legal staff at Patterson of live-in Bethel lawyers (volunteers). Somewhere between 10 and 20 of them. They have a decent support staff of paralegals and secretarys. They also have attorneys who are not regular bethelites and have private practices but who volunteer for them on a regular basis. They also outsource to attorneys who are not bethelites. Of course, where possible, they try and find witnesses that will do the work pro-bono.
Sooo, not to much in the way of legal costs. (At $150-$450/hour on the outside- they can outlast just about any legal team)
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Uniting all the worlds religions
by jacethespace intony blair ex british prime minister is talking about uniting all the worlds religions to bring peace to the world.just was wondering what peoples view points are on this idea.or whether you think its the work of the devil,etc, etc.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7426647.stm.
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lrkr
Why do they need to unite? The variety is nice. Each culture connects with the "divine" according to their experience. The problem comes when a religious tradition becomes so dogmatic that it demands the killing/hating/marginalizing of non-believers.
Typical British Empire approach- unite all of them- less confusion, more practical, easier to control.
(Nothing against the Brits- at least you all have the Fundamentalist Christians under control. You sent us all of your Puritans and we haven't been able to get rid of them yet!!)
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Green bible 1961
by loosie inis the green bible ( new world translation) special in any way?
did the wtbs make any revisional changes when the black one came out?
why did they discontinue the green one?.
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lrkr
Yes, I remember the dinosaur. When I was 5 my bible had a dinosur who was breathing fire attacking a few other poor mid-east residents and being chased by pirates.
My parents bibles had dinosaurs with pirate hats and moustaches.
(At least there was one good thing about the translation.)
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-01-08 WT Study (VALUELESS)
by blondie inrepudiate "valueless things" .
does this mean that secular work done as to jehovah is part of our sacred service?.
may we always repudiate valueless words and cling to valuable words of truth.. ot example--moses.
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lrkr
"Valueless things" is a category that they give to things that can't be called "evil" or "wrong" by most people. So they call it "valueless" to make you feel worthless and valueless if you value these things.
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lrkr
Untucked shirts- definately a sign of devil worshipers
And the heels on the lady on the cover- stilletos no? Are those what are referred to in some circles as "F*** Me" shoes???
(Please dont tell them- it'll be our little secret)
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lrkr
Had to BTTT because, well, damn- what a jacked up little flyer. I cant even come up with the right words but petty, invasive, controlling, hypersensitive and ridiculous come to mind. I missed this when it was first posted.
Wow!! Just way, way over the edge.
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ANOINTING - How JWs really know!
by Amazing inanointing - how jws really know!
[note: this is a 7 page post in case you may want to print it out and read it later.
i hope that i do provide clarity on this topic, but i accept that i may have muddied the waters as much as i have tried to clear them up.
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lrkr
If you've got $3.99 you can be anointed too.
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What To Think Of Mr. Scott McClellan?
by Rapunzel inmcclellan has recently published a book that is highly critical of bush and his administration.
mcclellan's book has understandably created a furor within the current presidential administration, an administration that has valued loyalty above all else.. mcclellan was a long-time bush loyalist, he started working for bush when bush was still govenor of texas.
mcclellan helped bush to enter the white house, and then followed bush to washington mcclellan became a spokesman for bush, defending the president on such issues as the war in iraq.
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lrkr
I'm sure he was motivated by money. But maybe by a need for a little confession and cleansing also. McClellan always struck me as someone who was very nervous and uncomfortable spouting the BS he had to spout. He often looked visibly shaken and sweaty. Maybe he actually has a conscience. His successor Tony Snow had no such problems. Give him the script and the talking points and he could go for hours. Right and wrong were completely irrelevant to him. I think he stepped aside because of health.
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Are the Creative days 7000 years long?
by Steve J inwhere does the idea that the creative days of the genesis account were 7,000 years long come from?.
genesis doesn't suggest that they were specific time periods, but shows that one "day" extended into others.
i feel that the clue is in the words; "and there was an evening and there was a morning, a first day.
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lrkr
Ok - old thread- but heres a little bit of backstory.
The official teaching of WTS was for a long time that creative days are 7000 years long (6000 years ends with Armageddon- last thousand years is millenial reign, blah blah blah)
But then, there was a sister in the engineering department in Brooklyn who was a geologist who told them that it was not possible to create oil, coal and other fossil fuels in 50,000 years. It takes much longer.
So, although some members of the GB didn't buy it- they quietly abandoned the 7000 year long approach and adopted the "a day is a time frame of unspecified length" teaching.
(Still doesn't explain the sequencing of the days of creation) This is one of those "Bethel rumors" relayed to me by someone who had just discussed it with someone in Writing. Take it for what its worth.