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  6000 / 7000- Numbers Without a Scripture

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  freddy franz working as the main writer/oracle under the knorr administration, came up with these very magic numbers.

  he said that mankind would be 6000 years old in 1975, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary.

  more importantly- somehow, he made people believe that 6000 was a magical number, necessitating the destruction of more than 99% of mankind that year even without a single scripture in his new bible (which he wrote).. oh, you may say there's scriptures that say 1000 years is as a day to god, but we aren't talking about a day or 1000 years.

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  OK- so "crazy" may be a bit of a mischaracterization- People who lived before geology and biology and paleontoloy were developed to the level that they were in the 1800's- is probably better. Most of the scientists in the 1800's chuckled at the 4000 BC date- because they had found fossils and sediment layers, etc that were older than that.

  Its interesting that 7 is the number of things that a person can easily remember (if its a field of interest- if not- usually only 2 or 3) How many state capitals, canadian cities, brands of tvs, etc can a person name- hard limit usually at 7. So marketers remember 7 as a magic number. I gotta believe the bible's master marketers figured that out at some point.
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  6000 / 7000- Numbers Without a Scripture

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  freddy franz working as the main writer/oracle under the knorr administration, came up with these very magic numbers.

  he said that mankind would be 6000 years old in 1975, despite all scientific evidence to the contrary.

  more importantly- somehow, he made people believe that 6000 was a magical number, necessitating the destruction of more than 99% of mankind that year even without a single scripture in his new bible (which he wrote).. oh, you may say there's scriptures that say 1000 years is as a day to god, but we aren't talking about a day or 1000 years.

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  lrkr

  " Bishop James Ussher was able to use the ages of famous pre-flood personages in the Bible to estimate the number of years between creation and the flood. In 1650 CE, he published his book "Annales veteris testamenti, a prima mundi origine deducti" ("Annals of the Old Testament, deduced from the first origins of the world.") He calculated that God had created the Earth in 4004 BCE. A decade earlier, Dr. John Lightfoot, (1602 - 1675), an Anglican clergyman, rabbinical scholar, and Vice-Chancellor of the University of Cambridge had already arrived at an estimate of 4004-OCT-23 BCE, at 9 AM. (We assume that this was either Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) or Jerusalem time)."

  Crazy people tried to figure out the "creation date" of the earth for a long time- but by the 20th century only Franz and a few other loons still believed that- since geology had proven that the earth was 4.5 Billion years old. (I crack up at the 9AM thing!!)
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  Catholicism--Curious About It

  by White Dove in

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  2. friends

  does anyone here have any catholic experience or have friends who are catholic?

  although i'm wiccan all the way, i'm still checking things out and would like input about it..

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  I definately agree that catholic charity is a good thing- and they are quite effective at it. But I prefer a more symbolic interpretation of the mass. The service does seem to be somewhat exclusive (exclusionary) too. "If you arent a catholic or if it has been a long time since your last communion you should refuse the host by placing your hands together and instead be blessed by the father." (No holy communion for you- you nasty little Lutheran!!)
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  Catholicism--Curious About It

  by White Dove in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone here have any catholic experience or have friends who are catholic?

  although i'm wiccan all the way, i'm still checking things out and would like input about it..

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  lrkr

  I went to a neighbor's son's first communion. I appreciated the way the priest interacted with the children (walked up and spoke with them). I liked the "peace greeting". Then the priest said something that really set me back. He said that the most important thing that a priest can do- the main reason a person becomes a priest- is to change the host into the literal body and blood of Christ.

  I was floored. Not building hospitals, not feeding the poor, not serving as a sanctuary for those who have none, not defending the sanctity of life- nothing real. Changing bread and wine into the literal body and blood of Christ!! The pretend stuff is the most important!!

  That did it for me. I enjoy the ancient ritual, but ignoring the real in favor of the imaginary was just too much!
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  Friend said they're really emphasizing "Family Worship Evening" at the Convention - why did they get rid of the book study then?

  by truthseeker in

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  i just had a chat with a friend i haven't seen for a while.

  he knows we're inactive.

  he was trying to encourage us by relating what he heard at the convention, saying "the end is near" and then proceeded to tell me that what stood out the most was how many times the society emphasized "family worship" night at the convention.. it got me thinking, why did they get rid of the book study arrangement in private homes if they're so keen on forcing people to have family worship night?

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  I still think that it was a move inspired by fear of liability. If you have an organizationally sponsored event in a private home then the organization has some liability for what happens there. I think some molestation must have happened at a book study. The legal department is the only department able to make the GB move so fast.
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  Michael Jackson’s Children Attend Local Kingdom Hall Of Jehovah’s Witnesses With Aunt

  by kurtbethel in

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  http://traceyricksfoster.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/michael-jacksons-children-attend-local-kingdom-hall-of-jehovahs-witnesses-with-aunt/.

  raising another generation in the "truth".. .

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  Let them go to the KH- then they can all write great tell-all books in a few years.
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  Read My Dads Crazy Email Trying to Make me Panic bout Armageddon!!

  by foolsparadise in

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  my mom emailed me and asked if they could come to town and go to our district convention with us.

  i politley said no thank you we wont be attending.

  we havent been to meeting in a long long time.

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  He sounds a lot like my dad- loving, sincere and thoroughly deceived. Its sad.
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  E-mail : DOES JEHOVAH KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, AND DOES HE HELP?

  by lancelink in

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  i believe that this has been posted on this site before, but this afternoon i received this message,.

  (after reading this i need to take several asprin and lay down.).

  does jehovah know what is going on, and does he help?

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  lrkr

  So- the whole point of divine intervention is to save money.
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  2009 Bearing Thorough Witness About God's Kingdom--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2009 bearing thorough witness about god's kingdom--pdf!

  (all credit goes to yknot) bookmarked searchable reduced click the link at the bottom of the next page.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/mc7ofr cheers!

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  lrkr

  Yes- thank you Atlantis!!
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  2009 Bearing Thorough Witness About God's Kingdom--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2009 bearing thorough witness about god's kingdom--pdf!

  (all credit goes to yknot) bookmarked searchable reduced click the link at the bottom of the next page.

  http://www.sendspace.com/file/mc7ofr cheers!

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  lrkr

  very clever book. It ties the monotony and sheer boringness of being a witness in with the epic and exciting tales in the Acts of Apostles. Gives brain dead witnesses a tie to something larger than them. Makes the neverending boredom seem like it has a purpose and is actually something better than it really is. (Really- its a classic use of a myth or moral story)