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  Astonishing decline of Christianity in Britain

  by slimboyfat in

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  well the results of the english church census for 2005 have just recently been published by peter brierley in a book called pulling out of the nose dive.

  it shows that church attendance in england continues to decline at an amazing rate.

  first i will just give the bottom line figures, then i will add some other interesting facts and figures.

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  Fe2O3Girl

  Qcmbr,

  You may be right regarding STDs and drug use, but I am sure you wouldn't want to repeat untrue assertions. The UK divorce rate is falling - it is at a five year low.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/119672/1.ashx

  Rachel
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  Loving your religion as a way of life as much as a belief system

  by Qcmbr in

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  before i start this isn't a preach about the lds church!

  i'm sitting here at work having been called in and thus missing sunday meetings and i feel an ache to be at church.

  i sat musing on this and the thought came to me that i actually love my membership of my faith, i enjoy the people (for the most part), i am fulfilled by the lifestyle, i am disappointed when we don't 'win' (in statistical battles etc.. :) and i am generally satisfied by the doctrine and apologetics (i don't feel painted into too many untenable positions and i have more than satisfactory explanations for many of life's 'unanswerables').

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  Fe2O3Girl

  I actually love my membership of my faith, I enjoy the people (for the most part), I am fulfilled by the lifestyle, I am disappointed when we don't 'win' (in statistical battles etc.. :) and I am generally satisfied by the doctrine and apologetics (I don't feel painted into too many untenable positions and I have more than satisfactory explanations for many of life's 'unanswerables').

  I did feel like that, and I am sure that a lot of JWs feel like that. I believe that the feeling of belonging more than makes up for discrepancies in the doctrine and apologetics for some JWs who actually understand the teachings, which is why banging on about some phrase on page 234 of the Finished Mystery book isn't going to make any difference to them.

  I'm sure lots of us have heard JWs explicitly state that they don't care if it isn't The Truth, they wouldn't want to live any other way.
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  Do you think it's right?

  by 5thGeneration in

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  as much as you may be mad at the society, the brothers or family, do you think it is ethical to post their letters or e-mails?.

  i kind of feel that these things were written with the intent of confidentiality and it is kind of unethical.

  (please, no disrespect to those who don't agree).. any thoughts?.

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  I don't feel comfortable with it. I can see why we do it though. It would be easy to forget how unnecessarily cruel some JWs can be unless we saw the evidence regularly.

  Nonetheless, I don't think it is good manners to make private correspondance public, and I don't believe that good manners should depend on being reciprocated. I would certainly feel betrayed if something I had written in private was broadcast on the interweb.

  The problem is, there are so many levels of communication now, from handwritten letters through e-mails, PMs, IMs, message board posts, chat rooms, blogs, and replies to blogs. It does seem to be common to abandon normal good manners when using new technology......
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  shunning for blood

  by Mable in

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  is it true that people aren't shunned for accepting blood?

  i heard that this is left to the individual's conscience?

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  Fe2O3Girl

  skyking - can you provide any references (Flock book, letters to BOE) for this? I understood that accepting a blood transfusion was definately considered an act of disassociation, and therefore a JW who accepted blood would be shunned.
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  My Local Dubs Love Me

  by Clam in

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  my local dubsa intrigue me.

  i moved to this house about three years ago.

  its a large detached house in a rural location.

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  Some JWs seem to have an indefatigable optimism about anyone that shows the remotest interest beyond "I am not interested, Goodbye", however explicitly the person explains the purely academic reasons for their enquiry.

  Your wife says: I am a medical professional who has to care for JWs who don't seem to understand their own rules about blood transfusion. Can you provide me with clear information on your blood policy?

  JWs hear: blah blah blah blood blah blah blah......

  JWs think: This time next year I will be interviewed at the SAD about how I studied with a midwife who realised the error of her ways and got baptised!!
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  Get in here everybody.

  by lisavegas420 in

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  it's my fourth year anniversary.. from the bottom of my heart i want to thank each and everyone of you for helping me grow and learn over the past four years.

  i especially want to thank simon and ang for their hard work and dedication.

  i also want to give a shout out to all the mods both present and past.

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  Fe2O3Girl

  Happy Anniversary, Lisa!

  

  Rachel xx
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  Fluff: Any one know how to make cookie-cutter cookies?

  by whyizit in

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  i've recently had surgery and with all the expense and the time i am going to miss from work, my family and friends have agreed that we will exchange home-made items only this year.

  i would love to make cookies for everyone.

  the gorgeous cookie-cutter kind that you decorate.

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  Fe2O3Girl

  I am glad you posted this question whyizit - I want to make one of these:

  

  Mulan, I love ginger, I think I will have a go with your recipe, but I will have to translate it into English - is shortening lard? Will butter do? And is molasses a black sugar syrup (or golden syrup)?
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  Letter of Disassociation

  by Vinny in

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  2. friends

  i was asked to post my da letter here.

  sure, it's not exactly short, but it lays out specific reasons why i no longer believe the watchtower society is the, "one sole truth on earth" that i used to believe it was.

  my wife no longer goes to any meetings either.

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  Fe2O3Girl

  Thanks for the link, Trev.

  Vinny, Welcome to JWD and thank you for sharing your letter. Yes, it is long, but it is well written and reasoned.

  Rachel
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  Thanks all now I'm leaving

  by wozadummy in

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  2. friends

  due to funkyderek i have come to the decision to leave this board.

  when i posted on the current gay thread in a way that i thought would stimulate thinking and lighten up the seriosness of the thread and have a laugh, he and others put me down publically labelling me.

  so i find it difficult now to continue posting knowing that someone has influenced others into thinking that i'm not worthy of being here because my phrasing and spelling is bad and that i'm apparently a "hyporite".

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  Fe2O3Girl

  This is a discussion board.

  What anyone posts is open to be criticised and questioned. That isn't bullying.
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  Parents still believe the JWs altough they know all the bad stuff.

  by GBSJG in

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  my parents where not raised as a jw but converted to the truth true field service.

  i was raised as a jw by them.. i have told them all the things that i've learned through this board and several books about the wts.

  they are open enough to discuss these things with me.

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  Fe2O3Girl

  If you asked 1000 XJWs what persuaded them that JWs don't have "the truth" you would get 1000 answers. Given how easy it is to get the information that you have presented to your parents, there has to be more to why people stay (and leave), or there would be hardly any JWs in the developed world.

  For some people, finding that the key doctrine of 1914 is built on (at best) dubious chronology is enough to break the control. But a lot of JWs don't have a remote grasp of the 1914 teaching, so why should that bother them?

  Being JWs is providing your parents with something that was missing in their lives - that is why they converted. Apart from climbing down from their choice, being JWs is still giving them something. What is it? Do they like the sense of belonging? The superiority over worldlings? Not having to think much about any decisions (from what shall we do tonight, what shall I wear, to what medical treatment will I accept)?

  Have they ever talked about how they learned about the JWs? What were their circumstances? What drew them in? I think that is the key.