so...i'm a born in, fading, can't break away with a df or da for various reasons.
as some of you may know from posts i have made, i am pretty much a total non-beleiver is god in general and a full throttle "this is bullshit" believer for the watchtower.. i've been doing some work for a friend of mine who is in a similar situation as me with the exception that he is not sure if he beleives in god, but he does believe the watchtower is bs (he's a born-in too, his wife, his family, all his friends are wt people, etc).. so, since i have been working with him we have had some interesting conversations about the wt and their bullshit.
most of his "friends" are people i know, but he has known them a lot longer.
My friend is the same he likes to look at porn used to drink a bit too much.
He has children 2 of them smoke and one has done drugs,
but I ask him about the generation change and what he thinks of it and he now says I am an apostate
Don't make sense to me as I have never been and never want to be a jw. Never even had a book study
I came on here to try and understand him.
last year in my cong (well it's not really "my cong" as i'm just "in" for the sake of family) we had a new "partaker of the emblems".
it came as a shock because this man was only baptized in 2005.. his wife has been a dub from birth.. he was 63 when he got baptized, took "auxilliary" pioneer after 1 month...became a full-time pioneer after a year....became ms after 2years...made an elder 6 months later.....2008 he got "anointed"....we were all surprised at the amount of time he took to climb the jw corporate ladder....rumours are that he donated a car to our po when he (po) lost his job, and some other favours( this man is wealthy).... .
i'm looking forward to be "just an observer" at this year's memorial in my cong (i am thinking of partaking myself, but i sure would rather not,the "bread" is tasteless and the wine is of poor quality,...i don't wanna throw out at the ms serving the emblems)..... back to that man,...how long would it take him to become a gb member?.
I am not and never have been a JW
God told Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit
Satan said eat it
They both ate the fruit
God banished them from the Garden
The watchtower said don't eat and drink
The JW's don’t eat or drink
Will God banish them from his kingdom (be it earth or heaven)
once again i'm posting information about the new danish film.
this time, the xjw, who saw the movie, updated his original e-mail to me containing additional facts.
"to verdener" / "worlds apart.".
For Besty you can find a link to download it here
in today's ny times there is an article on this topic, and here are two quotes:.
"bad times are good for evangelical churches.
'its a wonderful time, a great evangelistic opportunity for us,' said the rev.
I live in East London and Derbyshire I go to church in both places and both Churches have had an increase over the last 2 years
In London it went from 57 to 84 (we have a large muslim community in East London) and in Derbyshire it went from 200 to over 300 all adult members
Both Churches are C of E
The one in Derbyshire has 2 services every Sunday to fit everyone in, there are childrens groups for 3 Sundays a month (then the other Sunday in the month it is an all age service)these groups go from age 3 to 18 There are about 70 Children most Sundays.
Aranged in these groups
3 to 5 years
6 to 8 years
8 to 11 years
12 to 15 years
and 16 to 18 years
do the witnesses believe that their religion is the only right one?anyone who is serious about his religion should think that it is the right one.
otherwise, why would he or she be involved in it?
christians are admonished: "make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine.
Just because they say No it don't mean they mean no this is a case of no meaning yes.
The answer is in what's said after the NO
"No. Millions that have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah's Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before the "great tribulation," and they will gain salvation."
So reading it they are saying if you are dead then you have a chance to come back and be a JW, and it's also saying if you are still alive you might become a JW
So as normal No means yes lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7758706.stm.
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the following 2 questions when they arrive at your door with the watchtower society's 'good news' and their jesus (the prehuman angel michael, the human jesus and a resurrected spirit creature [6/15/06 watchtower page 30]) who is 3 persons in one:.
the first question is, if you truly abstain from blood, how can you belong to a religion that allows parts of blood?.
the second question is, would you donate blood so that the fractions allowed by the watchtower society could save the life of one of your jehovah's witness brothers or sisters?.
Reniaa why are JW's allowed to take fractions that also comes from blood? If they are allowed to take those then they should be allowed to restock the blood banks to make more for others.
there is a poster on here called reniaa and she has said a few times that we worship the cross.
i know i don't and know my family don't.
so i decided to look into it to find out if what she is saying is true.
Thankyou for your replies, just bringing it back to the top to see if anyone else has anything to say.
there is a poster on here called reniaa and she has said a few times that we worship the cross.
i know i don't and know my family don't.
so i decided to look into it to find out if what she is saying is true.
Thank you for all your replies. I could not understand why Reniaa would say that we worship the cross. I felt it had to be something she was told and then believed.
Being me I needed to find out from others if anyone did worship the cross and so far no one does.
So Reniaa it looks like you are wrong and have been told a lie by the watchtower.
there is a poster on here called reniaa and she has said a few times that we worship the cross.
i know i don't and know my family don't.
so i decided to look into it to find out if what she is saying is true.
To me it is a reminder of the sacrifice as well.
