I would say the greater majority for this simple fact: Most of them don't agree with some teaching and yet, will teach it from the platform. Then, with they friends and family, will never contradict what ever they said on the platform. Would this actualy be the actions of a true believer? Teaching things they don't personally accept?
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Have you ever known elders who were more into being and elder than really being a believer?
by phoenixrising ini have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.
i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.
i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.
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I thought this would be "obvious", but apparently ...
by Simon inif you want to share a conspiracy video that is going to be removed by youtube, maybe sharing a link to a copy that is hosted on youtube isn't the best plan.. who knew?!.
social media is no longer the platform to use for controversial, alternative or "wrong think" opinions.. host it if you feel strongly about it, but don't keep posting "this video has been removed" links, it's a waste of everyone's time..
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StephaneLaliberte
Ultimate, I don't believe Simon has a problem with people who disagree with trump and criticize his actions. He has it for the people who inundated this forum blaming trump for everything. The way the media and the people are handling trump is beyond proportion. I don't agree with Trump and many of his statements and actions, but I don't agree with how the media is completely crazy about him and coming up with bunker sensationalist titles.
I'll give you a concrete example: Right now, a lot of people blame everything on Trump for the impact the Covid virus has in the states. Unfortunately, we are also in a very similar situation in Quebec (Canada). Everyone knows our government has made crucial mistakes, yet, the Medias are not demanding the head of our prime ministers! We aren't inundated with articles about how our PM is evil, selfish, megalomaniac, etc.
That's the kind of absolute craziness that is beyond ridiculous and that was overstepping on this forum.
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Who is considered more bizarre?
by incognito2014 injws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
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StephaneLaliberte
Let me put it that way: South Park hasn't done a show on Jehovah's Witnesses; they did on the Mormon cause the source material is hilarious!
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My dad is now a ministerial servant tonight
by Wagurl inmy dad just became mistrial servant should i move out i’m almost 18. what the hell should i do?
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StephaneLaliberte
If you parents are willing to support you while you get further college education, you should absolutely do this. It will be much harder to get education once you need to pay for everything.
Sure, attending the meetings can be difficult, but life will be much harder if you don't have education.
Take it from a guy who left his parent's place at 20 without completing education. I'm 40 now and still regret it.
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2020-04-10 Congregation Donations by Electronic Funds Transfer!
by Atlantis inwell as usual, the watchtower wants to make sure the rank & file keep the money coming in.
even if the jw's have nothing to eat.. 2020-04-10--congregation donations by electronic funds transfer.
https://docdro.id/himg31q.
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StephaneLaliberte
As much as I share the hatred of how the funds are used when it comes to settling law suits and selling congregation buildings that were build by local volonteers, I still have to say: Jehovah's Witnesses are not really greedy when it comes to monney. I've handled the contrebution box accross various congregations and most of the donations were not sizable. On average, I'd see:
- 7$/publisher/month --> congregation
- 2$/publisher/month --> Construction funds
- 5$/publisher/month -> world wide work
Grand total: 14$ per publishers/month.
That's not a lot. That is certainly very, very far from the 10% over income many non-jw believe that they give.
Reality is, JWs make most of their monney through volonteering works. Elders, pioneering, maintenance, construction, everything is vonlonteer work.
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Jesus of Nazareth
by StephaneLaliberte ini’m watching jesus of nazareth with my kids.
i am amazed by how much i know of the movie.
just about every scene, something is said or done that i already know.
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I’m watching Jesus of Nazareth with my kids. I am amazed by how much I know of the movie. Just about every scene, something is said or done that I already know. It’s like watching my favorite movie where I know everything ahead but just enjoy it. I guess this is where the expression “cult movies” come from.
It’s weird that after 6 years out, I still have so much knowledge about the bible.
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Remember the Revelation book?
by wozza ini recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.
i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.
who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.
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StephaneLaliberte
I was about 10 years old when we studied that book at the book study and it was the first time that I realized that I didn't believe everything printed by the Watchtower. I still remember the topic: Prophesied trumpets were accomplished by public resolutions taken at conventions in the 1920s (Chapter 21. pg.15). I thought this was founded on nothing else than narsissisistic desires.
Despite this, it still took me another 25 years to actually leave the religion.
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Unbelievable!
by The Fall Guy inyou gotta listen to the first 60 seconds of the special talk drivel.. you'll immediately see why i've put this under jokes & humour.
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https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodspecialtalk2020/pub-sp-tk20r_1_video.
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StephaneLaliberte
I'm getting a bit sick realizing that I used to do talks like this with the same expressions, gestures, pause, arrggkk
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What do you think of the ransom as proof of Jehovah's love?
by AlainAlam inconsider these excerpts from the bible and the publications:.
“no one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends” (joh 15:13).
“for hardly would anyone die for a righteous man; though perhaps for a good man someone may dare to die.
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StephaneLaliberte
God states that the wages of sin is death.
So, could we reframe this to : Capital punishment for someone who fails God? That would mean the perpetrator of the sin would be facing capital punishment. What would the life of someone else have to do with it?
Even if that was some rule, it is still God that established it. Considering that every miracles performed in the past have violated the rules of physics also established by God, why would he not be able to violate that rule as well?
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What do you think of the ransom as proof of Jehovah's love?
by AlainAlam inconsider these excerpts from the bible and the publications:.
“no one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends” (joh 15:13).
“for hardly would anyone die for a righteous man; though perhaps for a good man someone may dare to die.
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StephaneLaliberte
Jesus died to buy back the value of the perfect life that Adam forfeited by his disobedience
Bought it back to who? God? That's my point... if God was love why demand a ransom in the first place? And why not simply create another Adam and Eve?