Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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Another heart-worming story

by StephaneLaliberte in

today, i got an email from an old friend with a story told by brother andre ramseyer who attended training at patterson in england.

a service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner.

when the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man.

StephaneLaliberte

the direction to not bring service dogs to conventions - road to nowhere

I didn't know there was such a directive. Not such a good idea, if you type in "service dog church", you will quickly land on news reports in 2013 about a young soldier that was asked to leave with his service animal. That church got a lot of bad press and they changed their policy since then. I guess all that is needed is for one blind person to show up to a JW convention with a dog. If they are asked to leave, go to the press... the story will go all over the place!

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Another heart-worming story

by StephaneLaliberte in

today, i got an email from an old friend with a story told by brother andre ramseyer who attended training at patterson in england.

a service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner.

when the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man.

StephaneLaliberte

Interesting that the message i got was saying Patterson, England. As some mentionned on this thread, there is no such place in England and thus, we'd have to assume that it is Patterson, USA. That goes to show just how reliable web stories such as those are reliable.

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Another heart-worming story

by StephaneLaliberte in

today, i got an email from an old friend with a story told by brother andre ramseyer who attended training at patterson in england.

a service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner.

when the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man.

StephaneLaliberte

Today, I got an email from an old friend with a story told by Brother Andre Ramseyer who attended training at Patterson in England.

A service dog regularly attended the meetings with his owner. When the owner passed away, the dog was given to another blind man. As the dog got excited every Tuesdays and Sundays, the new owner finally decided to let the dog lead him to the meeting where he started a new bible study!

Isn’t it a beautiful story about how Jehovah uses different means to get to people? <include aww sound here>

Well, I still have some questions about this:

Was the new owner a neighbor of the previous owner? How did he know to go to the kingdom hall from the new starting point?
In which congregation and city did this happen? When?
If that man started a bible study, how long did it last? Was he baptized?
Did the man live alone? Did he have a family? How did they react to all this?

There’s always a lack of details on stories like this which tends to be the case when stories are heavily embellished or simply made up.

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Have you ever known elders who were more into being and elder than really being a believer?

by phoenixrising in

i have known many elders who were much more into the idea of being an elder and getting all the old ladies to tell them what wonderful talks they give and the power then really being a believer.

i had one elder tell me that when he became an elder he was on top dog on top of the heap.

i knew some who were really all about the religion and following the cult.

StephaneLaliberte

I would say the greater majority for this simple fact: Most of them don't agree with some teaching and yet, will teach it from the platform. Then, with they friends and family, will never contradict what ever they said on the platform. Would this actualy be the actions of a true believer? Teaching things they don't personally accept?

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I thought this would be "obvious", but apparently ...

by Simon in

if you want to share a conspiracy video that is going to be removed by youtube, maybe sharing a link to a copy that is hosted on youtube isn't the best plan.. who knew?!.

social media is no longer the platform to use for controversial, alternative or "wrong think" opinions.. host it if you feel strongly about it, but don't keep posting "this video has been removed" links, it's a waste of everyone's time..

StephaneLaliberte

Ultimate, I don't believe Simon has a problem with people who disagree with trump and criticize his actions. He has it for the people who inundated this forum blaming trump for everything. The way the media and the people are handling trump is beyond proportion. I don't agree with Trump and many of his statements and actions, but I don't agree with how the media is completely crazy about him and coming up with bunker sensationalist titles.

I'll give you a concrete example: Right now, a lot of people blame everything on Trump for the impact the Covid virus has in the states. Unfortunately, we are also in a very similar situation in Quebec (Canada). Everyone knows our government has made crucial mistakes, yet, the Medias are not demanding the head of our prime ministers! We aren't inundated with articles about how our PM is evil, selfish, megalomaniac, etc.

That's the kind of absolute craziness that is beyond ridiculous and that was overstepping on this forum.

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Who is considered more bizarre?

by incognito2014 in

jws or mormons.

from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..

StephaneLaliberte

Let me put it that way: South Park hasn't done a show on Jehovah's Witnesses; they did on the Mormon cause the source material is hilarious!

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My dad is now a ministerial servant tonight

by Wagurl in

my dad just became mistrial servant should i move out i’m almost 18. what the hell should i do?

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StephaneLaliberte

If you parents are willing to support you while you get further college education, you should absolutely do this. It will be much harder to get education once you need to pay for everything.

Sure, attending the meetings can be difficult, but life will be much harder if you don't have education.

Take it from a guy who left his parent's place at 20 without completing education. I'm 40 now and still regret it.

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2020-04-10 Congregation Donations by Electronic Funds Transfer!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

well as usual, the watchtower wants to make sure the rank & file keep the money coming in.

even if the jw's have nothing to eat.. 2020-04-10--congregation donations by electronic funds transfer.

https://docdro.id/himg31q.

StephaneLaliberte

As much as I share the hatred of how the funds are used when it comes to settling law suits and selling congregation buildings that were build by local volonteers, I still have to say: Jehovah's Witnesses are not really greedy when it comes to monney. I've handled the contrebution box accross various congregations and most of the donations were not sizable. On average, I'd see:

7$/publisher/month --> congregation
2$/publisher/month --> Construction funds
5$/publisher/month -> world wide work

Grand total: 14$ per publishers/month.

That's not a lot. That is certainly very, very far from the 10% over income many non-jw believe that they give.

Reality is, JWs make most of their monney through volonteering works. Elders, pioneering, maintenance, construction, everything is vonlonteer work.

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Jesus of Nazareth

by StephaneLaliberte in

i’m watching jesus of nazareth with my kids.

i am amazed by how much i know of the movie.

just about every scene, something is said or done that i already know.

StephaneLaliberte

I’m watching Jesus of Nazareth with my kids. I am amazed by how much I know of the movie. Just about every scene, something is said or done that I already know. It’s like watching my favorite movie where I know everything ahead but just enjoy it. I guess this is where the expression “cult movies” come from.

It’s weird that after 6 years out, I still have so much knowledge about the bible.

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Remember the Revelation book?

by wozza in

i recall when it was released ,that's when i was a drone, how excited i felt at the prospect of reading it and formulating ways to sell it at the homes in my area.. i thought, finally a book to explain the last book in the bible and indeed one that the churches seemed to want to leave alone!.

i sold quite a few probably because of my enthusiasm and can still remember clearly the first day when i went knocking on doors with it ,and it's been decades since.. but over time it lost it's shine and my mind started to question the explanations in it due to the scene of other things being changed in the jw beliefs.. do you remember they flogged that book so many times in the book studies even when it was found to have "newer light " eclipsing it!.

who else remembers the printed pages with the official corrections to insert into the book ,so many that the book collapsed to be of no relevance anymore really.....what an embarrassment!.

StephaneLaliberte

I was about 10 years old when we studied that book at the book study and it was the first time that I realized that I didn't believe everything printed by the Watchtower. I still remember the topic: Prophesied trumpets were accomplished by public resolutions taken at conventions in the 1920s (Chapter 21. pg.15). I thought this was founded on nothing else than narsissisistic desires.

Despite this, it still took me another 25 years to actually leave the religion.