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  UPDATE: Fanatical Mom wants to report me

  by Scarlett_Martin in

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  *** update 2020/11/21 ****.

  hello people,.

  some time ago i made my first on this forum after i have just woken up.. i was very scared and honestly i am still amazed from the fact that i am still getting replies in the old thread.. here is the link to my previous thread: link.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Hello Scarlett,

  Dissociating from the teachings of a group such as the JWs isn't easy. If at times, you feel confused about the righteousness of your decision to leave, focus on the core reasons that lead you to leave in the first place. Don't ever ignore these by focusing on what appears to be good about the group.

  While you are still close to your parents, the reality is that you need to go forth and build a new life, where, perhaps, you will be a parent yourself. This doesn't mean it will be easy, but it will certainly be easier than staying in a group that will not let you be the best of what you can be.

  You're still young and you could be surprised to know where you'll be. Not dedicating 20 hours a week to a religion means that you could dedicate that time and energy to other things that drives you. You'll discover new horizons and find out options you weren't aware of their existence.
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  ''Faith in Action'' video....Jesus Disciples depicted with ''field service bags'' and preaching with ''Scrolls''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is a screenshot from a video on jw.org.

  go to videos, our organization, history .

  jehovah's witnesses—faith in action, part 1: out of darkness.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  If the door to door ministry was so vital and core to Jesus' teachings, certainly, there would be a field service success story in the bible, would there not? Or for the very least, how they were persecuted for going door to door.
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  https://www.livekingdomhall.com/

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, here is something i had not heard of.

  https://www.livekingdomhall.com/.

  apparently the next step to becoming an online religion..

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  StephaneLaliberte

  I don't see any reference to the Watchtower of Christien Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. The abous us section says nothing about who actually runs this site. This is fishy.

  But then again, how stupid would you need to be to invest so much effort and monney into something that like that without the watchtower's buy in? I mean, this is not a dating site, this is something specifically meant to broadcast official meetings, something Watchtower can shut down at a snap of fingers. One digital letter to the BOE and all that investment goes down. I'd be surprised that Watchtower isn't behind this. But then again, I've been seen people do alot of stupid stuff in my life time.
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  JW's Not Members anymore but Individuals

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been waiting for someone to post this and i've haven't seen it yet, perhaps i overlooked it since i don't visit that often.. but here is the link to the discussion.

  in it you will find letters and links to this new light.

  whether it's true or not, please verify.. as of .

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  StephaneLaliberte

  In canada, if you have contractors and yet, treat them as employees, they are considered employees and have the same legal obligations then if they were in fact employees. It is not what you say that matters, it is how you act. Hence, even if they say that people are individuals and not members, they are in fact members. They gather together, have membership in smaller groups (service and bible groups). If they do something wrong, they can be disfellowshipped. They congregation and bethels hold records about them. They are financially sustained by them. All the actions are those of members of a religious organization. Taking away the name changes doesn't change that. BUT, it will likely contribute to lengthening a few court processes.
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  Window washer wishing he made different life choices

  by neat blue dog in

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  When I was younger, I cleaned offices and sometimes windows. I remember that people working in those offices were looking at me with pitty, thinking I had a shitty job. While they were averaging 15$/hr at the time, I was making 30$ and was my own boss.

  Now i'm in another profession and industry. But point is that if you do things right, you can do a whole lot of monney in cleaning, even more than many professionals will do with their own career.
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  Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

  phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

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  Johnamos: Adonai + YHWH became Yehowah. And Yehowah became Jehovah. I still call it a nick name. They still don't know what the original pronunciation was. Because this is less than exact science, it seems very loathsome that they then judge other religions that don't use that particular pronunciation.
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  Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

  phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Considering that they all end their prayers with something like : "We send this prayer through Jesus, Aman", I actually don't see anything wrong with their teaching.

  The bible isn't a clear book. It contradicts itself and one of the versions that appears sound to me is the one JWs give about Jesus being only the Son and God deserving the glory and the worship.

  What doesn't make sense to me though is the importance they attach to a name made up in the 12th century. The name Jehovah isn't God's name. It's a nick name. And they have the nerves to hold other religions in contempt for not using it.
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  Belgium: Jehovah's Witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on February 16.

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  belgium: jehovah's witnesses will be tried for hate crimes on february 16.. https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200915_93224449.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Hateful quotes from WT literature concerning Apostates

  • Apostate does not have your well-being at heart.
    
  • Apostates feigning love
  • Apostate propaganda [..]‘s basis is envy and hatred
  • cunning spirit;
  • apostates are mentally diseased
  • They may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.
  • presumptuous attitude to warp their thinking
  • Modern-day apostates display characteristics similar to those of the Devil
  • They are not interested in learning about Jehovah or in serving him.

  Then you can point to this article which instruct members to shun to the point of ignoring even emails and text messages.

  See: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5710085385879552/label-apostate-effects
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  UGHHHHH Wife wants to pioneer. Our future together doesn’t look promising

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ughhhhh wife wants to pioneer.

  our future together doesn't look promising .

  i told her she doesn’t know what she is getting into.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Goingthruthemotions, I understand that this is hard for you, however, I would advise not throwing down the towel before it is time.

  While JWs often say that religion is at the center of a successful mariage, it isn't the case. Love and respect is.

  Your love for your spouse will help you support her in becoming the best she can be and achieving her dreams. You'll need to respect her religious beliefs in the process.

  But that is a two way street. She also needs to love and respect you and your religious beliefs. We know that the WT doesn't do that, so, everytime she shows lack of love and respect for you, don't hesitate to point it out. But you need to keep the higher grounds. You need to make sure that she never feels oppressed and that she is always respected.

  In the end, it is not words that win people over, it's actions. If she sees you always respect, love and honor her, she'll end up realizing that many of the JWs teachings do not do that.

  Another dimension to consider: If you were once a JW and have disfellowshipped/dissociated in the past and she is still full in, than... I would advise not having kids. JWs do break apart families. If your wife manages to bring up your kids in her religion, they will be tought to ignore you once they leave the house. That to me sounds like a deal breaker.

  On the other hand, if you never were a JW and the relationship you have with your (future) kids is not at risk, than, perhaps you can indeed work with love and respect. I've known many man who have been happy with their JW wives. JWs problems are not necessarily worst, they could be seen as different. You could end up with a none JWs but with different problems.
  
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  Poll/ So Who Do You Think Will Win The Presidency?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have always felt trump will win again.

  i just don’t see biden winning.. what’s your prediction?.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  When I hear the democrates taking Trump's words out of context and say that he has no respects for the Veterans, I sadly believe that they are sabotaging their own campaign. Like Trump would say: Sad! Very Sad!

  I don't like trump, but democrates doing this get even more on my nerves. They're supposed to be better than this!