StephaneLaliberte

Joined

• started 117 topics
• posted 2,103 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by StephaneLaliberte

• 
  35

  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  Yep. Told by the same authorities that claim the weight of the water pushed everest up and carved tg3e grand canyon

  OMG!!!! How did I not see that????
  
• 
  35

  Noah’s flood

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a few years ago at one of the conventions, there was a talk on gods remarkable creation.

  one of the slides showed a giant sequoia tree, approximately 5000 years old!.

  later another talk was about noah etc.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  you don't get it... the tree survived the flood. I know its stupid, but that's what I was told and I believed it for a long time!
• 
  4

  Quebec to abolish time limits on civil action in sexual abuse cases

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  good news for victims: quebec (canada) to abolish time limits on civil action in sexual abuse cases..

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/sexual-abuse-time-limits-quebec-1.5598419.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  I find that the XJW community often seems to forget that the police does not always equal justice. Yes, JWs need to tell the police who are generally better at handling abuse cases, but the system is not fool proof. I personally believe in proofs, such as DNA analysis, video/audio recordings, analysis of cell phones and computers, etc. Proof to corroborate the account of the victim. And yet, every once in a while, I find myself watching the news or some documentary where the accused is sent to jail on nothing more than the word of the victim. I find this deeply disturbing. I’d find it even more disturbing if this type of scenario happened several decades later.
• 
  20

  Pioneer School Funny Picture

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  found this on one of the exjw reddit pages.

  a "hilarious" group photo.

  another sign that this isnt the same religion we remembered of the 80s and 90s - and i dont mean that in a good, progressive way.. you can just smell the virginity oozing out of the front and back row.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  Propaganda at its finests. You had an awesome time following this program. See? We asked you to be silly on a picture with everyone else and you were all silly and having fun and enjoying each other. Look how close you all look like. You look like a family.

  Reality, the majority could sing "I'm the great Pretender" from the Platters. Many served two years just to make it to that course, hoping to find a mate, and off with the pioneering work.
• 
  37

  Lloyd Evans exploitation videos.

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. current

  i used to watch his videos on the monthly gb talks.

  he has went over the top a few times doing one video on why being liberal idiot is a good thing.

  he has made comments on the usa not knowing shit about what he was desperately trying to talk about.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  He has made comments on the USA not knowing shit about what he was desperately trying to talk about.

  This is a non-argument meant to discredit the opponent. For instance, recently, I lost too much time on Facebook trying to convince a women that the black community is doing much better in the states and ignoring the progress would be ignoring the heroic victories of MLK, Malcom X, Rosa Parks and the likes. Instead of offering counter arguments, a few of them told me that I didn't know what I was talking about because I wasn't black. One told me not to quote brother Malcom X deliberately not addressing the quote itself.
  

  Same goes with USA. They can have an opinion on my prime minister and I can have an opinion on their politics. The truth is somewhere in between us and it is by openly talking about it that it shall be found.
• 
  30

  Australia - Selling Off Assets

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

  https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  And good luck spinning "paying back Caesar's things to Caesar" as "persecution"

  That's exactly what they did when France tried to tax them at 60%. They ended up loosing. Now that I am out, I don't even know how that 60% was going to work. We were told it was a broad general 60% on all donations, but I bet it wasn't. Probably something like: 60% of the money you don't show expenses for. Still, Watchtower is to be treated as a business, it should pay the same taxes rates as any other business, which is certainly not 60%.
• 
  60

  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  the truth about the truth a... Not sure we need another movie there have been many documentary's made on the cult

  I agree, unless there is a fresh take on the JWs. Its like the 1989 Batman movie... when it was done again in 2005, many doubted it would work, and yet it was met with phenominal success; and the 2008 version was even better!

  Who knows, perhaps that documentary will be awesome! (but I still have strong doubts!)
• 
  60

  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  Whilst in America he went to Watchtower headquarters in Warwick. He has a clip where he is filming for this super do per movie.

  I was surprised by this as well. He did try to excuse that a non agressive activism, but I think this falls in his short comings. By and large, he is against "agressive activism". And while I understand people's desire to confront a bunch of hypocrites (some elders) hoping to wake a few in the process, this largely had the oposite effect.
  
  
• 
  60

  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  If I understand it correctly the daughter of Ray Franz has authorized additional copies to be published by her as she inherited the rights to the work. Correct this if I am wrong.

  Ray friends didn't have kids. That was part of his regrets about JWs, he gave up having kids and he knew his wife would be without kids once he'd pass on. I don't know who the new copy rights holder is; or should I say, her relationship to Ray Franz.
• 
  60

  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  StephaneLaliberte

  Ha! Is that a joke? He didn’t apologise for outing faders on Facebook or making illegal copies of Crisis of Conscience.

  I don't remember him outing faders. I know he was accused of this, but never saw any evidence of this. Aside from that story (which I don't know if it is indeed true), he's been effective at respecting fadders throughout the 7 years he's been active as an "apostate".
  
  As for crisis of Conscience, you're right, I've never heard any excuse for that one. What bothered me about this was not the fact he printed and sold the book, at the time, the book wasn't sold anywhere; the copyright holder wasn't doing anything about it. It was that he added jwsurvey on the book.

  So, ok, he doesn't say sorry for everything he should. That goes with his pride character. But I did hear him retract and say sorry when he got his facts wrong.

  I don't want to defend the guy like a JW defending the WT. But what I can say is that this guy did and still does a lot and the complaints against him are generally not serious enough to demand his head on a pike.