Volcano eruptions and Tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning. How do believers explain these away? Jehovah's Witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do Volcano's and Tsunamis have to do with it? And God was done creating the earth when humans were added to the garden of eden. He was satisfied with his work. Told them to dominate the earth, but it is obvious that humans would never be able to dominate volcano's, earth quakes and tsunamis. So why would God fix it for the paradise when it was already a problem when he created the world perfect in the first place?
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Tsunamis and Volcanos: why?
by StephaneLaliberte involcano eruptions and tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning.
how do believers explain these away?
jehovah's witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do volcano's and tsunamis have to do with it?
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// Happy debugging, suckers
by MeanMrMustard ini know there are a few software developers here.
just for fun.... .
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StephaneLaliberte
1) rand() is a random number between 0 and 32767. This means that this statement would return false on occasion and would likely be difficult to find.
2) This is sabotage and the programmer could receive a hefty bill for the time invested in fixing this. The comment leaves no doubt about the intentions.
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Russian brother gets suspended jail sentence. - perfect example of how misinformed the jdub's are
by nowwhat? inon november 24, 2020, the petropavlovsk-kamchatskiy city court of the kamchatka territory convicted brother sergey ledenyov.
he was given a two-year suspended prison sentence with three years of probation.
he does not need to go to prison at this time.. on the final day of hearings, sergey boldly explained what it means to be one of jehovah’s witnesses.
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StephaneLaliberte
I don't care whether he's right are not, its senseless to outlaw people for their religion. Condemn and judge them on their actions, not their belief. If that brother was brought to court for enforcing the shunning policy, I wonder how that declaration of faith would sound than.
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UPDATE: Fanatical Mom wants to report me
by Scarlett_Martin in*** update 2020/11/21 ****.
hello people,.
some time ago i made my first on this forum after i have just woken up.. i was very scared and honestly i am still amazed from the fact that i am still getting replies in the old thread.. here is the link to my previous thread: link.
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StephaneLaliberte
Hello Scarlett,
Dissociating from the teachings of a group such as the JWs isn't easy. If at times, you feel confused about the righteousness of your decision to leave, focus on the core reasons that lead you to leave in the first place. Don't ever ignore these by focusing on what appears to be good about the group.
While you are still close to your parents, the reality is that you need to go forth and build a new life, where, perhaps, you will be a parent yourself. This doesn't mean it will be easy, but it will certainly be easier than staying in a group that will not let you be the best of what you can be.
You're still young and you could be surprised to know where you'll be. Not dedicating 20 hours a week to a religion means that you could dedicate that time and energy to other things that drives you. You'll discover new horizons and find out options you weren't aware of their existence.
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''Faith in Action'' video....Jesus Disciples depicted with ''field service bags'' and preaching with ''Scrolls''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhere is a screenshot from a video on jw.org.
go to videos, our organization, history .
jehovah's witnesses—faith in action, part 1: out of darkness.
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StephaneLaliberte
If the door to door ministry was so vital and core to Jesus' teachings, certainly, there would be a field service success story in the bible, would there not? Or for the very least, how they were persecuted for going door to door.
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https://www.livekingdomhall.com/
by dropoffyourkeylee inok, here is something i had not heard of.
https://www.livekingdomhall.com/.
apparently the next step to becoming an online religion..
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StephaneLaliberte
I don't see any reference to the Watchtower of Christien Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. The abous us section says nothing about who actually runs this site. This is fishy.
But then again, how stupid would you need to be to invest so much effort and monney into something that like that without the watchtower's buy in? I mean, this is not a dating site, this is something specifically meant to broadcast official meetings, something Watchtower can shut down at a snap of fingers. One digital letter to the BOE and all that investment goes down. I'd be surprised that Watchtower isn't behind this. But then again, I've been seen people do alot of stupid stuff in my life time.
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JW's Not Members anymore but Individuals
by pistolpete ini've been waiting for someone to post this and i've haven't seen it yet, perhaps i overlooked it since i don't visit that often.. but here is the link to the discussion.
in it you will find letters and links to this new light.
whether it's true or not, please verify.. as of .
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StephaneLaliberte
In canada, if you have contractors and yet, treat them as employees, they are considered employees and have the same legal obligations then if they were in fact employees. It is not what you say that matters, it is how you act. Hence, even if they say that people are individuals and not members, they are in fact members. They gather together, have membership in smaller groups (service and bible groups). If they do something wrong, they can be disfellowshipped. They congregation and bethels hold records about them. They are financially sustained by them. All the actions are those of members of a religious organization. Taking away the name changes doesn't change that. BUT, it will likely contribute to lengthening a few court processes.
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StephaneLaliberte
When I was younger, I cleaned offices and sometimes windows. I remember that people working in those offices were looking at me with pitty, thinking I had a shitty job. While they were averaging 15$/hr at the time, I was making 30$ and was my own boss.
Now i'm in another profession and industry. But point is that if you do things right, you can do a whole lot of monney in cleaning, even more than many professionals will do with their own career.
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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.
by smiddy3 inhi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.
phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..
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Johnamos: Adonai + YHWH became Yehowah. And Yehowah became Jehovah. I still call it a nick name. They still don't know what the original pronunciation was. Because this is less than exact science, it seems very loathsome that they then judge other religions that don't use that particular pronunciation.
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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.
by smiddy3 inhi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.
phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..
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StephaneLaliberte
Considering that they all end their prayers with something like : "We send this prayer through Jesus, Aman", I actually don't see anything wrong with their teaching.
The bible isn't a clear book. It contradicts itself and one of the versions that appears sound to me is the one JWs give about Jesus being only the Son and God deserving the glory and the worship.
What doesn't make sense to me though is the importance they attach to a name made up in the 12th century. The name Jehovah isn't God's name. It's a nick name. And they have the nerves to hold other religions in contempt for not using it.