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Sexual Offender in my hall.

by PandaJ in

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so my wife calls me and says, "my mom told me there is a sexual offender in our hall, but she won't tell me who!".

i have a small child, so i obviously want to know.

her mom tells her a website where she can search for sexual offenders, www.criminalfiles.info.

PandaJ

So my wife calls me and says, "My Mom told me there is a Sexual Offender in our hall, but she won't tell me who!".

I have a small child, so I obviously want to know. Her mom tells her a website where she can search for Sexual Offenders, www.criminalfiles.info. So she looks around and doesn't find anyone in our area that she recognizes. Her Mom finally tells her who, so when we get home we do a search on that site for his name. Bingo!

In 1995 he was charged for Indecency with a child / Sexual Contact, on two different girls. One 13, one 17.

My Wife's Mother tells her that he was, "Falsely accused" by the girls, because they were just mad at him for him marrying their mother. So apparently these girls were his step-children.

Is that possible? I suppose so. I personally couldn't believe that if this was a lie on the girls parts, they would be able to make up a story, have it match, press charges and carry it through, all on a lie. It is possible I suppose, but highly unlikely. It shows he wis status as, "Discharged" which means he isn't on parole or probation. Of course anyone who has this kind of past will have some sort of story that justifies it or an excuse why he has this kind of past.

This Sexual Offender is someone I have talked with on several occasions and have actually been to his house twice, to help with his computer. Then something hits me. I remember that the first time I went over, a few months ago, I opened up his browser for whatever reason, and in the history bar I saw a bunch of web sites that included the word, "teen" in them. Such as, www.xxxteen.com and www.nakedteens.com. Not those sites exactly, but I just remember seeing a long list of porno sites, all relating to teens. They looked like sites that you would get in spam e-mails, real generic. However if you click a link it does not show up in your history bar as being typed in. Those sites were manually typed in, that I have no doubt about.

I couldn't believe this didn't register when I was first told he was a Sexual Offender, but when I first saw the sites many months ago I just closed the browser quickly and thought to myself he was just some old pervert, not *that* big of a deal.

My Wife told her Mother that I had seen those sites on his computer and she simply said, "Oh my." and not another thing about it since.

I personally don't know what I am going to do next time he tries to talk to me, or gets near my child. I am very tempted to print out the results from www.criminalfiles.info and put them all over the kingdom hall in some way or another.

In one hand I don't want to ruin this persons association with everyone he knows, I mean, if this gets out I can't imagine how everyone would treat him. Does what he did justify how he would be treated if everyone knew. I don't want to put young children in the hall at risk so I feel responsible to tell everyone.

Your opinions?

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What if I were to tell the Elders..

by PandaJ in

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..that i will go to meetings but i will never refuse a blood transfusion for myself or my family.

what would happen to me do you suppose?

can anyone show me an article explaining anything related to this?

PandaJ

If they were to ask me if I believed that, I would probably tell them, "I don't know.".

I wonder what would happen then.

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What if I were to tell the Elders..

by PandaJ in

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..that i will go to meetings but i will never refuse a blood transfusion for myself or my family.

what would happen to me do you suppose?

can anyone show me an article explaining anything related to this?

PandaJ

..that I will go to meetings but I will never refuse a blood transfusion for myself or my family.

What would happen to me do you suppose?

Can anyone show me an article explaining anything related to this?

Thanks.

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Circuit Leasing

by freedom96 in

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i thought about this when i read a thread about bethel coachtours.

this is "circuit leasing".

my understanding is that these are the cars that circuit overseers had, and were being sold to the witnesses.

PandaJ

I doubt that site has anything to do with JW's.

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Hello There...my first post!

by Syndromology in

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this is my first post at this website i discovered a week ago and just love.

it so hilarious sometimes.

i used to post on pro-witness sites long ago but got rejected after a apostate attack!!

PandaJ

One of those firends of mine was sexually abused and used in satanic rituals (wich go hand in hand. I admire what people like Bill Bowen do , and i hope the best for them but they only know half the story the other part of the story is unbelievable, trust me non-corporeal beings like demons really do exist and some people at high places in the organisation worship them and pretend to worship Jehovah. Thety use children to become vessels for demons because children are easier to break (you have to break their will to let the dark, negative being enter. I have seen it happen to myself in a therapy session, although that hadn't anything to do with the organisation then) The whole business is a cover up trust me. I'm from Holland and there are a lot of victims from this. It's really a network and the Society is happy that doens't come out, that's my opinion. They're acting like the paedophile business is everything but there is more to it

Let me get this straight.

Jehovah's Witnesses are just a cover for what is really an underground Satan worshipping cult that use children as vessels for demons, and you personally have been possessed by a demon?

Buddy, go get some serious medication, asap.

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Does anyone have..

by PandaJ in

..an actual scanned copy of a letter from the wts telling any elder or jw that they need 2 witnesses to pursue a child molestation charge?.

since everyone says this has been what they have been telling people, it would seem that people would have contacted the wts in the past and received a response explaining.. someone please help me out.

thanks.. pandaj

PandaJ

..an actual scanned copy of a letter from the WTS telling any elder or JW that they need 2 witnesses to pursue a child molestation charge?

Since everyone says this has been what they have been telling people, it would seem that people would have contacted the WTS in the past and received a response explaining.

Someone please help me out. Thanks.

PandaJ

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New York Times article online

by Dogpatch in

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here it is online!.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/11/national/11witn.html.

randy watters.

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"It is inconceivable to think elders would investigate an allegation of murder to determine guilt or innocence, so why would we investigate an allegation of child abuse?" Mr. Anderson wrote in his resignation letter. "This is just not our field of expertise. We are ministers of God, not police."

That is an awesome point.

PandaJ

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I MAY HAVE HIT BOTTOM

by BONEZZ in

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i thought i'd hit it several times before...as i have been thru the divorce over the past couple of years...lost all my so-called friends...lost my belief in what i thought was the "truth"....and now my own loving daughter, being the good little dub she is has told me she doesn't want me to walk her down the aisle at her wedding.

she told me today at lunch.

i almost threw up.

PandaJ

Robert King?
Now we have a name, how about a location? Some of us might like the opportunity to "adjust" Robert King's thinking.
Just an idle thought.
-francois

Great work in supporting his post.

"Let's find out where he lives so we can hurt him, so he will stop lying and saying we have the capability of hurting people!"

i.e. "I kill anyone who thinks violence solves anything."

PandaJ

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I MAY HAVE HIT BOTTOM

by BONEZZ in

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i thought i'd hit it several times before...as i have been thru the divorce over the past couple of years...lost all my so-called friends...lost my belief in what i thought was the "truth"....and now my own loving daughter, being the good little dub she is has told me she doesn't want me to walk her down the aisle at her wedding.

she told me today at lunch.

i almost threw up.

PandaJ

Panda, to exonerate the Watchtower in any manner in their quest to rip families apart is reprehensible. At one time, we were all duped into believing this cult was the truth. We have grown and learned what they are. Many of our loved ones have not. But, to encourage a daughter to deny her father his right, one you look forward to your entire life from their birth, simply because you no longer wish to be in that cult, is abominable.

Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem. Having taught your children something their entire life, then you decide, "Okay, I don't believe this anymore, and now you can't believe in it anymore." is not the way the world works. Yes, it sucks that he can't be in his daughters wedding and I don't agree with it, but to comfort him like he is just totally an innocent victim is stupid in my opinion. He made the decision to be a JW, he made the decision to raise his children as JW's, just like he made the decision to stop being a JW. He made these decisions and he is getting results from them.

Should we all become good little brainwashed dubbies again so we may have the love of our families?

Depends on which is more important to you, having religious freedom or spending your life with your family. This is why I believe a lot of people stay as JW's even though they don't believe. They would rather give up their religious freedom than lose their loved ones. Am I saying this is right on any level? No.

What I am bringing to attention is that he raised his child to do exactly what she is doing, and now she is doing it, and he is acting like an innocent victim.

Regardless of religious beliefs, a father is entitled to walk his daughter down the aisle.

Apparently not. Go ahead and make me out to be the bad guy. I am not agreeing with what is happening, I just understand why it is.

PandaJ

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I MAY HAVE HIT BOTTOM

by BONEZZ in

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i thought i'd hit it several times before...as i have been thru the divorce over the past couple of years...lost all my so-called friends...lost my belief in what i thought was the "truth"....and now my own loving daughter, being the good little dub she is has told me she doesn't want me to walk her down the aisle at her wedding.

she told me today at lunch.

i almost threw up.

PandaJ

Bonezz is not asking his daughter to leave the org. or "throw away their beliefs" A FATHER WANTS TO WALK HIS LITTLE GIRL DOWN TO THE AISLE!! I believe and was told by an elder, too, that this kind of situation is one of those "matter of conscience" thing.

Again, I don't know his situation but I will respond as if he raised his family as JWs:

Just like birthdays, etc. Yes, they are 'conscience matters' but we all know what that means as a JW. Don't do it or you are spirtually weak. I am just saying, he raised his children to be JW's and then he decided to leave and now believes that the WTS is evil. Maybe he shouldn't have devoted his life and his childrens lives to an organization like that? And since he did, even though he got out, he taught his childrens those beliefs and now he is regreting it.

IMO He is not a total innocent victim in this situation.