Counting only those who believe it is virtuous and not doing it so they can ruin others' lives, I estimate closer to 500,000 to 800,000 total. If you only count those who, according to their own theology, would survive Armageddon were it to happen now, that is how many I would expect left. If that.
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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?
by pistolpete ini have a few jw relatives who are true believers.
by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.
all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.
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Thoughts on Zoom
by waton inthe wt sponsored zoom meetings reduce individual freedom, spirituality.
the wt sponsored zoom meetings enables ego maniacs, narcissists to have their influence beamed right into your living room.
conversations that were private, personal are now broadcast, forced on all participants.
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WTWizard
One thing I really detest about it is that this means no more snow days. Remember when you would hope for a blizzard so the boasting session would be cancelled? No more. Snow, ice, wind, or other things that once meant no boasting session now merely mean going on Zoom.
I don't know what they are going to do when we lose the entire Internet as part of Civil War II (along with World War III).
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Do You Think Trump Will Abandon The Republican Party?
by minimus inthe way he’s talking, i wouldn’t be surprised if he creates a third party .
he’s unhappy with republican leadership.
can you see trump leaving the gop and going rogue?
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WTWizard
Turn into a banana republic in the next 4 years? That already happened on November 3, and we are stuck with communism until the reptilians claim this planet. We will have a war that ends in the communist side winning, with our mandatory coronavirus torture shots (for what amounts to a cold), enforced with drones and robots, and RFID chips along with it. At which point, the whole war for humanity will have been lost.
Thanks, xians and muslims, for making this happen by donating your spiritual energy to the cause.
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TO SELECTED BODIES OF ELDERS ASSIGNED TO THE COVID-19
by pixel indecember 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.
re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.
dear brothers:.
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WTWizard
I suppose they will demand that all those with supplies donate such to the communal stock, so they can give them out as they see fit (hint: Those that contribute the most will probably not get the most back). It will be those who pious-sneer and do the most for joke-hova that get the most. This is why every individual needs to look out for themselves and family first. Of course, it helps to have a job that pays a decent amount, which is not possible given washtowel rules.
And, to add to the list, BATTERIES! I expect the results of the election to be a big mess--Biden ultimately getting placed in. The patriots will try fighting back, only to be vanquished and full communism imposed. This will be quite messy, and I am expecting frequent and long-lasting blackouts to happen as a result of this war. (Worse than a storm--at least with a storm, you don't have people shooting back at you while you are trying to restore power and Internet.) Get DVDs or downloaded videos, since you are way more likely to lose your Internet for a long time or for good than electricity. Make sure you have a decent stash of working flashlights--there is no worse time than Jan 10 to find out your flashlights are duds, and all the stores are sold out of them and have limits of one total package of batteries per customer (if you can get them at all).
In addition to batteries, you might wish to get games you don't need Internet to play. Those old Nintendo DS cartridges may give you some entertainment if you have electricity but no Internet or you can secure a good stash of batteries for them. Board games and cards are also nice, as are good books. (I mean paper books, not digital books that require Internet access to read, let alone electricity). If your walls are boring paint, some nice posters of your favorite theme will be nice if you order them before Jan 9 (again, the worst time to try is after the lights go out and there is no Internet). And, candles throw off quite a bit of heat along with light, but can be messy and start fires if you are not careful and don't know what you are doing with them.
If you do that, you will not be relying on any congregation of jokehovian witlesses when the power and/or Internet go off and stay off. Do not give any of your stash to the congregation, since everyone should be looking out for themselves and families, not the whole congregation.
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More JW left ideology examples
by neat blue dog inthe latest gb update ramps up the fear of the plandemic even more, and introduces a whiteboard animation that advocates staying at home, wearing masks and social distancing.. https://www.jw.org/finder?locale=en&category=latestvideos&item=pub-jwb_202012_12_video&docid=1011214&applanguage=e.
then there's another 'save the planet' type article that mentions debunked and unrealistic green new deal-esque talking points such as alternative energy, switching to a plant based diet and less manufacturing.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/peace-happiness/save-earth/.
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If they cared about people, they would be instructing people to take hydroxychloroquine, quercetin, and/or green tea along with zinc and vitamin D. This combination is known to reduce the severity of other coronaviruses (such as those that cause regular colds), and quercetin is a nutrient that just happens to protect you from this virus without bad side effects.
If everyone took these supplements in sufficient doses, there would be no need for all this nonsense. No "social(??)" distancing, no masks, no closing down things, no mandatory vaccinations, no nothing. You get the virus while taking these supplements, you barely get sick if at all, you become immune to the whole thing, and that's the end of that. Once that happens, you cannot spread the virus (aside from touching something with virus on it, and then touching something else that then has the virus on it). Obviously, if everyone took these supplements, no one would ever get sick from touching these surfaces, the virus would lose effectiveness, and SARS-CoV 2 would become critically endangered and go extinct.
Or, they can use it as an excuse to enforce these measures. The washtowel is based on fear, and "giving Caeser's things to Caeser". This, of course, is going to mean mandatory vaccines regardless of the suffering they cause. Satan will be blamed, of course--and the "solution" will be that abomination of a god they have supposedly destroying the culprits. Instead, that thing will have those culprits ruling the whole earth, enslaving everyone under the worst possible conditions. Lifespans will be drastically reduced, that "70-80 year limit in that stupid bible will be enforced, and science will be totally dead.
I think I would rather not listen to the washtowel. Yes, while the virus was new and we didn't know how it would act, it was prudent to be careful and stay apart until more was known. (And that was when they were spreading it door to door in field circus.) Once more is known, it is good to act on that knowledge--once I found quercetin worked (even better than hydroxychloroquine, for those who are trying to get this drug banned), I quickly ordered a long course of quercetin so I could be protected (I already take zinc and vitamin D). And now that I know how to tame this virus, they want everyone to wear those stupid masks, stay 2 meters apart, and ultimately take that torture shot.
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A positive about been a former JW
by joe134cd ini decided on christmas day to wash the house and do some yard work.
i had a concerned neighbour come out and bring me some of their christmas food.
although i appreciated the food and wished her a merry christmas, the neighbour was concerned as to why i wasn’t inside enjoying christmas.
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I do the decorations and the lights, and find a nice variety of Christmas music (hint: The more you censor, the less variety you are going to get). Even though I believe that jesus is hogwash intended to enslave the world, I take it as "the sun" when they mention Christ. I would rather actually worship the sun on that day.
But, I do not take extremes in going into debt. That will only hold you back next year, making next Christmas dreary. I would just as soon stay within my means so I can keep doing it year after year without worrying about it all year long. And I would rather be getting things to prepare for it during July and August, so there is plenty of time instead of that mad rush on December 24 when everything should already be ready to go. Even food--I would rather buy non-perishable items slowly during the fall and stay within purchase limits (and, even in absence of such, within reasonable quantities) and have the time to get items in short supply instead of panicking the day before.
And, above all, I do not advocate drink driving. Those who do that are idiots, especially since every year hundreds of thousands are warned and still drink and drive, and tens of thousands (including other road users) die from drink driving (plus many others seriously injured). Drink and drive, and you are asking for a dreary Christmas and a crappy new year (especially if you kill or seriously injure someone or get badly hurt yourself). That is one thing I say Bah! Humbug! to.
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Should A Covid Stimulus Bill Be Helping Other Countries?
by minimus ini think it should simply be there to help us citizens.
and besides giving money to other countries, stop giving money to the arts and entertainment..... give money to help taxpayers struggling with debt .
period!!!
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Let those foreign nations, especially Israel which is getting the most of the money, take care of themselves. We have enough to take care of ourselves without worrying about the whole Third World. If any individual wishes to donate directly to families in those areas, they may feel free to do so. But not my taxes.
And the big companies should also get nothing. The big tech companies deserved coal for Christmas, not huge tax breaks and relief. They censor everything while helping put Komodo Dragon Harris into office, along with mandatory coronavirus vaccines. The companies making these torture shots also deserved coal for Christmas. Along with the likes of walmart, mcdonalds, and nestle (lower case letters out of intentional disrespect for these abominations), and all the big banks. There is simply no excuse for the Dow being above zero with all this going on--they deserved coal, too.
And why are they keeping China on the favored trade partner list? It is almost impossible today to find affordable products not made in China, and they make the worst junk possible using the dirtiest technology and slave labor there. (Not to mention the dirty shipping from China instead of buying in your own country or one that is nearby).
Another that deserved coal was the entertainment industry. The likes of Disney deserved to go out of business, along with the major news media. One big company controlling everything we listen to and learn? And they destroy alternative media, pressuring all tech companies to censor everything not going along with the reptilians while destroying those who will not. To heaven with those entertainers that supported the Left--such as Barbra Scheißand, who wanted so bad for KILLary to win as president (then why didn't you move to Australia as you promised, idiot Scheißand?
Last but not least, the churches deserve coal. All of them. The mosques and synagogues, too. Every single one of them. All they ever did was promote the archetype of the perfect slave, opening things for communism, promoting poverty and misery, and destroyed science. To this day, if we didn't have these three abominations running the world, we would have infinite clean, free energy. We would have cures for every disease, and people would be living well into triple digit ages without illness (and no, 120 is not "well into triple digits"--I mean 800 or 900 years). We would be traveling faster than light as easily as we can walk the few meters to your mailbox. We would respect nature--not only animals but people (no more having races move into areas where they conflict with indigenous people and then subverting their cultures into a drug-and-crime world). Invasive plant and animal species would not have been a problem, either.
Maybe that bible needs to be thrown out. It has already ruined the world, made us pay for foreign nations so they can sell us drugs and cheap junk, led to giant companies controlling everything (including our MANDATORY coronavirus torture shot), made it impossible to earn a living without working 80 or 90 hours a week, and reduced our lifespans to a paltry 120 years (soon to be 70-80, as is currently the life expectancy) from the 800 or more it was under Satan. Let's get all that foreign aid, big company and stock market propping, coronavirus torture shot money, and church money to help people they have destroyed through communism. In our own country.
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JW's and deciding which PAGAN traditions to follow or not to follow. Merry Christmas all!!
by goingthruthemotions in* first i would like to say.....i apologize to my son's everyday for getting them involved in this cult because i took so much from them as far as celebrating holidays go.
they are now 22 and 17 great kids.
they want nothing to do with the cult.
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And even their annual wastefest in the spring is pagan. That "last supper" they celebrate as their memorial is in reality based on the Zodiac. Yet, they wouldn't directly touch astrology with a 10 meter pole.
As with Christmas being "pagan", yes it is. And so is the whole jesus fib. All based on the sun. (Except the sun makes no demands that we emulate it, opening the door to being slave trainees.) It all starts with the Solstice, and December 23 is the true Yule date. It ends with January 6. And, jokehovians have nothing to do with any of it. Yet, they pray in the name of jesus, when they would be better off praying in the name of the sun.
One thing I find really abominable is those hebrew letters found in the jokehovian bibles. Those letters were excused as "index points". They are, in fact, used in black magic against the whole human race (and is having its final manifestation with people owning nothing, not even their bodies, and the mandatory torture shots for this cold.) Yet, what if I were to utter a phrase that is basic magic (even though said phrase is common usage)? They would have a cow--yet they accept those ugly hebrew letters in their bibles, using such to enslave the world under communism.
Yet, after using those hebrew letters in the bibles, they ban something as innocuous and fun as worshiping the sun.
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Was Jesus Born on December 25th?
by Sea Breeze inwe were told by watchtower that no way jesus was born on dec. 25th.
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what do you think now?.
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Jesus wasn't born at all. It is our parent star that is reborn, and yes our sun is what is the real Christ. Our own sun--it "dies" on the "cross" of the Zodiac, and is "reborn" when the days in the northern hemisphere start getting longer on December 25. It saves the earth from darkness and desolation, just as this archetype of the perfect slave supposedly did.
In fact, the jokehovian witlesses know more of the truth than other religions. This makes it even worse that they deliberately go against nature and truth--unlike other religions that either don't know better or that capitulate a bit to nature, jokehovians deliberately go against nature. So Christmas is actually worshiping the sun? What if the sun wasn't there, idiots? Is it a problem with honoring the star that makes life possible on earth at all?
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They will never have "negative growth" for the simple reason that they can invent any fictitious number they want. If I were to count the numbers, I would use positively military standards and the most brutal honesty possible. Only those who genuinely wished to serve joke-hova would be counted--not those in it for power, show, or because they have no other viable alternatives. Only those that, according to their own theology, would survive Armageddon would be counted. And then I bet there would be a number well below the 1975 peak.