We had an experience from last circuit assembly of b/s pioneer and how they moved where the need was greater, somewhere in Queensland Aus; they had spent all their money on petral and rent and had nothing left for food, but this kind sister came around and left 7 pumkins on the verandah, they were so grateful, and 7 not 6 divine isn't it, they laughed and said we had pumkins for a week. Ha can you imagine the colour their skin would be not to mention the other end of the body, pumkin soup, pumkin scones, baked pumpkin, isnt God thoughtful.
fresia
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My District Convention pioneer experiences- I fed my kids from the gutter?
by Witness 007 ini wen't to the district convention 2 years ago, the talk was on "sacrifices," a pioneer couple were interviewed by the c.o.
they had pioneered for many years with two kids, the dad worked part time.
they explianed how money was "tight" for them many times.
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Is it The Truth? Does this answer work?
by jwfacts ini know that a jw that wants to believe in the wts will not listen to any form of logic or reason.
however, could the following reasoning reach the thinking ability of a few jehovah's witnesses?.
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"Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." Kingdom Ministry May 1974 p.3
"Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus' prophecy will shortly have a major fulfilment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time." Awake! 1974 Nov. 8 p.11
Really is disgusting who they can just wipe their hands and say was over zealous brothers, I know that my nieces husbands parents sold their home and pioneered for years, but they have nothing now at retirmnet age, their kids are numb nuts have no education at all, just terrible.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....
by oompa ine-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.
he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.
that the context is key.
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fresia
The thing that would awaken more people would be a hard core presentation.
You are right it was very much tonuge in check the elder that handled to talk was xPO, and is the most easy going elder we have, he really tried to lighten it up in the beginning he asked the question does the GB endorse privatate groups studies ect; the answer he said NO, then said ok next talk and everyone laughed then he got into the article.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....
by oompa ine-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.
he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.
that the context is key.
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fresia
Had a talk tonight on Stranger Danger, to be wary of the media and its lies about the WTS and also the biasness of the media cant trust, they are half truths or lies. The sheep know the shepherds voice so they should avoid anthing other than what we learn at the meetings and from the bible.
Then it was question box time. Was handled ok without any great drama. Just basically saying the the GB does not endorse private group study and nor does it endorse get togthers on the net and own web sites, have enough spiritual food provided by the FDS why waste time getting into things that leave us with more questions and can wreak our faith. Basically if we need to get deeper in study we can go to the insight book or other publications. All these studies and private chat without the FDS endorment just causes divisions and the next step is apostacy.
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Awake 1980- Movie "The Exorcist 1+2 will cause demonic attacks and murders!
by Witness 007 inawake 1980 had a mission.
attack these two movies!
voted: "the scariest movie of all time," this is what was said about "the exorcist" and the sequel.. awake 1980 12/8 p.11 "since the release of "the exorcist some years ago, many reports are on file of the adverse effects it had on many who saw it.
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fresia
Thats stupid, as stupid as my story about the film, I walked out on it, and the next day a JW called and I started a bible study as I was still in shock at the film. So it was the movie that prompted me to study what I thought was the bible.
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Question for Ex-Elders
by okiesooner1966 ini apologize in advance if seems like i have started to many new threads, but this site no pun intended has been awakining.
i could not ask for my life to be much better, but there is one problem that i have.
i know it is not healthy but it is my life, i have been smoking even before i left the org.
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fresia
I had the same problem, was a heavy smoker even more so when I faded out, when I was tracked down by a family member and asked study, I never told them I was smoking, when the elders came around I admitted I had a problem but stopped, which I did and havent' smoked for 17mths, I just stopped.
It is very hard I know but the freedom when you don't have to live a double life is fantastic. Not so much the religion but the not sneaking around.
I wish you luck. They will ask if you were smoking while attending meeting and field service if you say yes then they can DF you, if you say no and you have only been smoking since been inactive they cant DF you.
Good luck.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....
by oompa ine-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.
he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.
that the context is key.
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fresia
I wasnt' going to go tonight but seeing it is the question box coverage I will.
Be interesting who takes the talk in ours, would laugh if it was my BSO he is a knowledge fanatic, but a real society man.
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How to a kill the Watchtower Society.
by 5go insimply leave the meme your self and don't let it control you any more.. the watchtower is a meme.
trying to kill a meme is like trying to kill a god.
you can't but you can get out from under it's control your self.
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fresia
Wizard is right, and thats what the society is worried about, the internet has been a great source of information about religion and the bible in general, sites I like to view usually have no denomination but give a scientific or historic look at things with open mind, from those that have nothing to gain other that finding truth themselves.
The countries that are now showing interest are the poorer countries, Africa and some European countries that were once behind the iron curtain or under socialist rule, are now being witnessed to, many are uneducated and very poor.
There is no really any growth in the western countries, only those born in the religion no converts, maybe immagrants thats all. But overwhelming fall in the percentage of converts since the internet.
This is why to Society is worried about higher education, and would only want the r/f educated by the WT publications, the fear is starting to turn the org into an obvious cult, where as it was suttle, now it is becoming desperate, and stricker rules have been sought to keep the fold shackled and the donations flowing. The elders have become policmen and look out for any signs of indiviual thinking and what they would term apostacy aboust the WTS or GB. It has become very political and their other concern is being sued, so the elders have to take the fall in many situations, they try and cover the WTS as much as possible.
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Validation of JCanon's claims!
by Paralipomenon ini understand that many have been scoffing at jcanon's latest posts and mathematical calculations, but i thought i would dig a bit deeper, to see if there was any underlying truth to his claims.
first take a look at his handle here: .
jcanon .
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fresia
He actually puts a lot of work into his posts, and some are very interesting, I don't find anything he does to be harmful and although some posts are long and very mathamatical, I tend to always take some little point away.
He really believes in everything he is doing.
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Advice Needed
by faundy ini stopped going to meetings over a year ago as i'm a lesbian and have finally accepted it.
i was a witness for 22 years, since i was born.
now i missed my friends at the hall at first, but now i have some amazing new friends that love me no matter what.
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fresia
It would be hard if you have family still in the org.
When I was being tracked down after being inactive for awhile, I acted nonchalant, like whats up, at the time I was living (sharing a house) with a man and his son. I just said I have some problems at the moment and need to sort them out, and I want you to respect my privacy on this if anything changes I will contact you.
I moved around a bit and never heard from them again until last year when it was a family member that got things going again, thats another story.
Good luck.