Posts by lalliv01

wondering where in wise jehovah's plan your mother spent eternity; a bright and sensitive lad might ruminate at night on matters weighing heavy on his heart; why babies died and mothers went away and what might be your destiny in god's grand scheme of things.. the ironies in life!

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What a good synopsis of C.T.Russell's life and his role in starting one of

the world's most authoritative religions; If you're not sure of something you'd

better go consult the elders. Ugh! Seems Russell wanted freedom and look

what he started, an authoritarian sect with a very demanding leader. No, not

Christ but the GB. And you'd better not cross them or even disagree with any

of their "truth" because, you know, "they're God's chosen channel."

Imagine a world full of "them." A good fence would be an essential necessity

in paradise, and don't forget to draw the curtains.

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ARE YOU into NaNoWriMo? Maybe you SHOULD be!!

by Terry in

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what is nanowrimo?.

national novel writing month is a fun, seat-of-your-pants approach to novel writing.

participants begin writing november 1. the goal is to write a 175-page (50,000-word) novel by midnight, november 30.. valuing enthusiasm and perseverance over painstaking craft, nanowrimo is a novel-writing program for everyone who has thought fleetingly about writing a novel but has been scared away by the time and effort involved.. because of the limited writing window, the only thing that matters in nanowrimo is output.

lalliv01

Terry, you are headed towards an envious achievement, go for it!

I think if anyone can do it, you can.

Lalliv01

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Hmmmmm... I wonder...

by AGuest in

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if i opened/ended my exchances with "assalamu alaikum," would so many be so offended?

i personally don't think so.

in fact, i think there would be some who would think, "hey, cool!

lalliv01

I think that is primarily the case among a society that has been in existence for, what, ummmm... less than 300 years...

True,but a society that is a bit phobic about people speaking or using a foreign language. I believe most would not mind at all, your using such a nice greeting,

especially if they uderstood what it is you were saying, some, though, would say or think: Hey, this is America, speak English! What are you to do? A

Christian, I believe, would put pride aside and use language that would not offend. This in line with the counsel at Romans 12:18: " If it be possible,as much

as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."

Peace to you too AGuest.

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Spirituality

by Aleman in

why care about spiritual things?

i see most of all of you speak in different opinions of what is or may be true spiritual things (while a few ar just freezing cold or dead spiritualy), but i ask all of you, why even bother to care or pretend to care of spiritual things?.

-aleman.

lalliv01

I sometimes read these posts and can't believe what I'm reading. I get the impression that I'm reading a

preplaned spoof or act, a conspired debate between a supposed JW and posters on this forum. An antagonist

is picked to debate the side of JW'ism against posters here. WHY? So that the lurkers here can see, hopefully,

the foolishness of JW'ism. ALEMAN played the part of an unhappy, hateful,haughty JW trying to convince someone

of something. Did he succeed? No, of course not, but I bet the lurkers were made to think.

ALEMAN, you don't fool me. I bet you're really a happy,humble and sweet guy, am I right? But, you played your

part very well!

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It's not WHAT you believe; it is HOW you believe.

by Terry in

overheard:.

"is your cup half full or half empty?

"well, depends on whether you just poured something out or poured something in.".

lalliv01

Terry, truly a well thought out "talk."

I enjoyed reading it.

How we see ourselves prepares us for how we make the journey from here to there. A road trip is what life is all about. A constant whine about "Are we there yet?" makes death the destination! Certainly death is not the purpose of our life!

I believe you are so right in saying "death is not the purpose of our life" and, this is why this board exists, all here have felt and maybe

still feel a need a need to find "the purpose of life." I am tranquil and content with my life, but is this all there is? I realize all answers to

this question is mere conjecture and imagination. But, why can I imagine living for a thousand years, what's the use? Some would say

death is the purpose of all life, I think.

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What "Type" of Poster Are You?

by new boy in

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this was posted on "james free" thread on why others people opinions were not respected here.

to which i said...... o.k.....lets look at the facts.

in general what type of people post here?.

lalliv01

Me? I retired at age 60 and am on days off,every day! So, having time on my hands and desiring to explore computerdom and the internet, I started

exploring. Anything I've looked for, for information, is here on the net. I was a JW once, so I was curious about what I might find about JW's. I found

this site and was very pleasantly surprised to find people with a lot of good thinking and information. I am amazed that people here have a "common

ground" and yet have such diverse thinking and ideas. Makes me wonder, were we once all alike?

Before I came here I was content and happy with my life, I wasn't looking for a place to vent any anger or animosity towards anyone. But, it's good

to know there are many, ALL AROUND THE WORLD, who "know you" and "understand you" cause we were (almost all here) "Jehovahs". That's

what my worldly friends used to call me, "he's one of those Jehovahs."

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The Governing NARCISSUS: the psychology of the FDS

by Terry in

narcissism is a term of psychology/psychiatry characterized this way.. has a grandiose sense of self-importance .

is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love .

believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by other special people .

lalliv01

A JW child learns to attract attention by not pledging allegience to the flag or sing the national anthem.
A JW family doesn't decorate for Christmas or Halloween. They stand out by being different and considering themselves superior!
I grew up JW. Just because JW children have narcissism modelled as the correct behavior does not mean they embrace it.
I hated being different as a child. It was embarrassing to not pledge allegiance. It was embarrassing to need to leave the classroom while the others had their holiday candy and whatever else they were doing in the classroom while I went down to the library or went home early.
I (like others have expressed on the forum) didn't feel like I fit in, either with the JW's or with the world. I tried for many years in my adult life to fit, but never got to be in the "in club" among JW's. I felt alone when I pioneered. I felt alone when I was an MS (never an elder).

Gopher: Wow,how I do identify with this. I never felt superior or somehow better than my friends or others. As a matter of fact, I (pretended) to have a chip

on my shoulder so that friends wouldn't dare bring up my "goofy" religious beliefs, thereby avoiding my need to make a defense, which they most assuredly did

not want to hear.

Maybe Terry is right,but, I know that neither I nor my witness friends at the time felt better or somehow more priveledged than our worldly peers. I liked my

school mates and I surely never,ever, wanted them to die. Later on in life I had dealings with DO's and CO's who talked about the need for "tightening things up"

as the "end" was drawing near. I felt their smugness and air of superiority, truly sickening.

That was back in the SEVENTIES. I was an elder at the time and I still dreaded having to make a defense for my "goofy" religion. And yes, I still have beliefs

that are indefensible but the "chip" is gone. Now, I want someone to show me the real truth.

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SO MUCH FOR PREVIOUS TRADITIONAL MORALS

by REBORNAGAIN in

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the city of philadelphia has decided to punish the boy scouts of america because it will not allow homosexuals to serve as scout leaders.

city officials said they will charge the cradle of liberty scouts council $200,000 a year to use the city-owned headquarters.

the council was paying $1 per year (since 1928).

lalliv01

Groups with "Family" in their name

I am also wary of orgs. that use heritage in their title or name.

Having said that, Philadelphia did the right thing. There are people

who think the Constitution of the U.S. only applies to them.

They are wrong.