the only reference i can find to a library at bethel follows: .
watchtower, 1962, p. 636: "...10,000-volume library are found at bethel in brooklyn.
how large is the room(s)?
Have you been there? When? How large is the room(s)? Does it contain original literature that goes back to 1879? Are members allowed to browse all of it? Are visitors allowed to browse all of it? Are visitors allowed to use a camera inside the library(ies).
Len Miller
thats a question for Barb Anderson. She would know everything about the libraries..............
non-ex here. i noticed the other day I am actually a "Senior Member"!
But i have noticed lately there are a lot of Newbies here on JWD. To me it seems like more than usual.
Why so? becuase of the private WT? The generation? The war on education? Blood?
Just curious myself. Has anyone else noticed this?
my neice who had cancer died at 3:00 a.m. my sister just called and told me.
i'll put up the obituiaries when it's posted.
no need for responses.
sorry for your loss.................
this came from a reply on a message board:.
re the arrangement for the visiting governing body and another ny bethel representative, the expenses are not shouldered by a particular cong.
this is not the arrangement here in our country.
"he mentioned as well that there will be literal celestial phenomenon as what happened between 66-70 CE when a comet appeared in the sky in jerusalem for a year in the figure of a sword"
i think it was Josephus that wrote about a comet that appeared in the sky for about one year. The WTS has been refering to this event lately.
I am unaware of any historical data to validate this.
this came from a reply on a message board:.
re the arrangement for the visiting governing body and another ny bethel representative, the expenses are not shouldered by a particular cong.
this is not the arrangement here in our country.
he asked: "If you are a graduating high school student now, what are your plans? do you still intend to enroll to college? no, there's no time for that anymore, you should utilize the remaining time in sserving starting right now!"
well does this mean there was time for it 25 years ago? Cause as I recall there wasnt, and if you did dare to go to school the whole KH talked about you and looked down their noses at you.
This is how I read it :,as soon as you graduate start pioneering before you realize that you are wasting your life and your not stuck in a witness marriage raising little JW children with no easy way out cause you have no money and no skills and the only thing you have left is the hope that God will validate all of your poor life choices by instantly curing your manic depression and thoughts of suicide and assigning you to clean up the bodies for hundreds of years after Armageddon.
it's march 15th for gods sake i want my spring...i'm sitting here in nashville freezing, can't get out on my motorcycle or anything...
I'm sick of rain, heat, rain, humidity & rain. Running the air conditioner just about 24/7 coz if you turn it off for half an hour you're covered in sweat.
the snow on my drive way is piled higher than the roof of my vehicle. how high is your humidity piled?
well this is just great.
and right after the bs overseer sits right beside me and starts small talking..... great!
i knew what was coming.
well i did it! I am still actually wearing my shirt and tie as I type this. I can assure you this morning was torture...
I mean, I like the people I was out with but I hate pple seeing me and thinking I am brainwashed. I see people looking at us as they drive by, pple abrubtly showing they are definitely not interested and me standing there wanting to say " i dont blame you"
I got paired up with an 8 year old boy, good kid, but i dont agree with sending little kids out so I took every door, As much as i hated that I had to spare him the misery. he kept reaching into his case to get out his invitation and I would step up and knock. hehe, after i told him to tell his mother that I made him take every door!
Near the end of the morning the wife called my cell from work, she didnt know i was out so she was "so proud" of me for going.... it actually ticked me off that she said that. I wasnt even going to tell her I went cause i dont want her to think that "i'm coming around". I absolutely hate service.
I think I need to tell her that I dont want my friends and family to change, but that I cant in good conscience go in service anymore cause I dont believe everything the org. says. She wont like it but I cant express how much I hated this morning. I HATED, HATED, HATED IT!
Thanks Lil for your comments, its nice to know Im not alone in this situation.
Still............
in the mid-to-late 90's i remember the new trend was that a lot of the people that were jw's started pulling their kids out of regular public school and started homeschooling them.
the absolute worst were the kids who had been homeschooled from kindergarten all the way until they graduated.
those poor kids were the most weird, unsocial, naive,sheltered, unadjusted, and uneducated kids i'd ever met.
The elder could not believe that I said that High School was a great experience. This was after the elder said that I was baptized at 13 at pioneered through HS. They promply left before I could corrupt this future elder.
well obiously HS was not good for you.... you developed independant thought!
well this is just great.
and right after the bs overseer sits right beside me and starts small talking..... great!
i knew what was coming.
There are many married couples were one leaves and the other stays, I mean what is the worst that would happen, even if you was DF'd and your wife wasnt, she would still be able to talk to you, and if she loves you as much as I think, I can imagine she would stand by you.
Be Brave, and just do it, if you want to.
chikikie, i have given my wife a glimpse of how I feel. She also found my Crisis of Conscience book and freaked out. So she knows a bit. At the time I know she was thinking about "what if he leaves the "truth"" from comments she was making (i'm her husband and I can read her like a book).
I know from those comments that if I did "leave" she would not leave me. That is comforting but it is also a hard life. No "friends" over to the house and never going out with friends as a couple. Scanning incoming calls, JW's not calling my wife cause they afraid I might answer the phone. Me knowing that the other JW's feel "sorry" for my wife and shaking their heads about how sad it is I left and always asking her if Im "coming back". Her family wouldnt invite me over... etc. It would be honest, but I dont know which is tougher, being honest or faking it..... thanks for your thoughts...........
well this is just great.
and right after the bs overseer sits right beside me and starts small talking..... great!
i knew what was coming.
I would just not show up and come over to my house instead. I'll be an RV for ya.
hey that sounds great.
Actually what would be cool is to know someone on here in your own territory, then you could have an RV and plan ahead of time what your gonna stump me with each time I bring someone along!
Also, I could then be that guy in the car that always has an hour long RV when I go out, hell I could go there first and stay all morning! Hey, you live near Hamilton????
