3 weeks from now for me...
I am NOT looking forward to it. Although I will probably take notes this time for the first time in my life!!!!! Funny how that happens eh?
still_in74
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Anyone going to the convention this weekend?
by cinnamon1642 injust wondering if anyone was going to one of the conventions that start this weekend in the us?
if so it'd be interesting if it was recorded and could be posted to hear if there are any other new changes and to confirm previous announcements regarding it.
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My Elder Dad said "what changes"
by Champion inyeah, i need the one that shows how the old wt lit says the same basic teaching as the new generation understanding.....so not new light but finally just recycled crap...........oompa.
i will try to find it.
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still_in74
I have stopped believing what the jws taught me in my youth for many years now. I survived abusive jw parents, elders, and my guilt for not believing what i was raised to believe. I watched my brother die because he would not accept a transfusion. I am now alienated from my family and feel very alone right now. Thank god i found this sight, at least some of you understand how damaging membership in this organazation truly is.
welcome Recovery! yes there are many here can understand the isolation and heartache you feel. Please start a new thread in "friends" and introduce yourself........ we love to meet new friends! And around here you are among friends... Still...............
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I need someone to talk to..
by littleblueuk ini am really feeling depressed.
my relationship with my jw mother is deteriorating rapidly.
i can't even look at her sometimes.
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still_in74
I have a cruise booked with my mother and sister in June. I paid for it already but I don't want to go. I really need your input on this. I feel like crying all the time and have even thought about just not being around anymore. Obviously, my mother can't wait for me to die in Armegeddon and I may lose my sister, the only relative I really connect to. I hate the way this has divided everyone.
if you dont go then it is carte blanche for your mother to attack your sister. As difficult as it may be to get on that boat you probably should. Perhaps you can just not talk about the pink elephant and have a good time as a family?
I know easier said than done but you are the only one to be able to help your sister.
Oh and as already mentioned - have even thought about just not being around anymore - if this is what I think you are meaning then get ready for JWD members to hunt you down and "love bomb" you cause there is no way we are going to let it happen!! We all have difficulty with family and our "fake" lives (for those of us still in) - but we come here and vent and sometimes cry and it makes things a little easier to handle.
We all feel your pain, many of us have or are feeling the same pain in our lives. We are here for you.
Still..........
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Dispelling JW Myths: Great Crowd on Earth
by AuldSoul inin revelation 7:15, the nwt says that a great crowd who had just come out of the great tribulation would be rendering sacred service to god "day and night in his temple.
" in the book, revelationits grand climax at hand!, the explanation of this verse is given as follows:.
this temple does not refer to the inner sanctuary, the most holy.
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still_in74
I think that would be a great idea, having you people do a commentary on the entire book of Revelation.
Suure. That sounds like fun.You know, i think you may be on to something here. Worthy of its own thread? Various members accepting various chapter(s) to research and compile? Could be interesting............
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still_in74
The GB admits to being fallible, to have "no special insights", to "draw certain conclusions", but still claims to have Light. Is not Light from Holy Spirit? Did the HS lie to Gods "one channel"? Does the HS spirit make mistakes? Or is it that the fallable, uninspired, conclusion drawing FDS/GB applied "human, fleshly reasoning" to the scriptures to decipher its meaning? Mans thoughts trying to decipher Gods thoughts? After all, can complete doctrinal reversal be considered "progressive light"?
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More info: Future of Watchtower
by winnower inin a recent post, journey-on had some very very interesting observations.
i am taking them a little deeper.. journey on said:i think they will go sort of mainstream if they see the slow leak has turned into a full blown rupture....but it will happen gradually and over time.
it is very apparent that you have given this a lot of deep thought.
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still_in74
when the demands of a religion do not originate from the bone fide held up as the source of the leader’s authority, when sources are willfully quoted out of context so as to deceive a reader, when higher education is discouraged, when emotional blackmail is taught as a Christian duty and a spiritual weapon of control against others, when reason is derided and suppressed, when science is mocked, when facts and perspective on the origin, history and faults of the organization itself are willfully hidden from the membership, when sources of information critical of the organization are banned and those who seek it are punished, when the organization is described either infallible or fallable whichever is convenient in the venue, when questioning of doctrine against its own bone fide (the bible) is labeled "apostasy", when a biblical ritual of baptism is now considered an act of devotion to "the organization" rather than to Christ, when hypocrisy of membership at the United Nations (UN) is exposed, when children are molested by persons who have been protected from justice by the civil authorities and the children are protected from no one, when suppression of one’s own conscience is demanded in favor of uninspired old men of a Governing Body in one’s life choices from the marriage bed to employment to education, and when REPEATED false prophesies of the organization are exposed by time yet hidden from contemporary membership, I can only conclude that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the joyful servants of Christ, they are the suppressed captives of a despotic cult.
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Vaccines, GB, Alt Service, blood- I think im starting to see the light
by dirtyknections inhi all.. i am new to the board.
my story is reminiscent of just about everyone else on the board.
here is a quick run down.. .
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still_in74
Good edit job jgnat. But it probably should have read something more along the lines of this: "Forget the elders, sweetface may call you.
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Dirtyknections: welcome to the board. you seem like you are very mature in some regards and in others, well maybe not so much. I would hate to see you say or do things you may regret here. Others like you have reacted this way and there is no going back. One poster was read back multiple posts he had made online by a body of elders in a JC!
Anyway, dont take my post the wrong way, I am excited to have someone like you here. In fact, we are close in age, both married, and both realizing that the org is not who they claim to be. I look forward to getting to know you better. I just dont want to see you in a situation that is beyond your control.
PM me anytime and have fun!
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JWS are businessmen who exploited Religion to create an Empire
by Homerovah the Almighty injehovah's witnesses are businessmen who exploited religion to create an empire or a kingdom of their own design true or false.. complete with servitude slaves and the laws to keep them in line.. after just listening to some of da judge rutherford speeches he certainly was a narcissistic opportunist that wanted it all.
and its not too easy to understand why a lot of people fell for his tritely bullshit, what a charismatic salesman.. you can really see how he was intensionally was trying to build a kingdom around himself with himself sitting of course at the steering wheel.. in modern terms we would call a person like this a power junkie out of control .
its apparent i suppose he did finally get the power and wealth that he desired, unfortunately at the cost of the love and respect of his family.. and its unfortunate too that this disingenuous character's legacy still remains and maintains itself in the wts.
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still_in74
After just listening to some of Da Judge Rutherford speeches he certainly was a narcissistic opportunist that wanted it all
I knew nothing about the Judge 1.5 years ago even after a lifetime in the Org. Nothing!
Now I cant understand for the life of me how everyone doesnt think he was a raving lunatic! After prison his entire existence was one big "F--K YOU!" to the world.
"Put me in jail??????" - No more military service, no more church, no more voting, no more medicine, no more purchasing of new inventions/products, no more holidays, F--K YOU!!
This man was a megalomaniac alcoholic. He said whatever it took to string thousands of families along for the ride.
I hate that man.
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My Elder Dad said "what changes"
by Champion inyeah, i need the one that shows how the old wt lit says the same basic teaching as the new generation understanding.....so not new light but finally just recycled crap...........oompa.
i will try to find it.
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He says "I don't know anything about that"?????
because most JW's dont listent to details, they dont understand them and just presume the elder giving the part has it figured out and the WTS would NEVER lie (deceive)
At my KH - when an elder reviewed the annual meeting change about the Generation I was at the edge of my seat elbowing my wife to listen. 2 Pioneers came to our house after and neither of them even heard it mentioned. I actually had to explain to them what the current/previous generation teaching was !
And as for 1935 - almost no witnesses understand this. They just kept repeating it cause they had heard it mentioned for so many years. This is likely the case for your father.