Posts by monophonic

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Get yer 2007 ASSembly invitation here

by cultswatter in

enjoyhttp://www.mediafire.com/?8rgm1ewmy2o

monophonic

[-Pray over your Big Mac as a witness to those who do not pray over their Big Macs]

that one's killer! even when i was 'in', it'd be so damn embarrassing to be with someone who had to make a showy display of their important conversation with god. i used to love interrupting them w/, 'and buy me a new stereo for my car and hook me up with a hot chick at this convention and....'

now, when w/ the very few wit friends through family, if i'm hangin' with them, i lift my arms and head to the sky and ask if they'd like to say grace. i usually get a kick under the table, but they're not the praying in front of everyone type.

remember hoagies and danishes and all that worse than fast food crap they'd serve at assemblies. i always wondered who got the contract to supply the meat, etc. i know shasta got the contract for the sodas, which sucked b/c ...all i wanted was a pepsi and they wouldn't give it to me. just one pepsi...*

if you know that reference, we're instant friends. :)

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Will Vinyl Make A Comeback?

by brinjen in

was just flicking through the june issue of 'silicon chip' magazine (yes i'm a geek .

as there is no needle or anything making contact with the record, there is no wear or scratches happening during play.

it replays the sound in analog form, not digital.. http://www.elpj.com/.

monophonic

sounds like an important product and too many people don't realize that there are a ton of great vinyl releases that have never or will ever be re-released onto cd b/c music is a business and it's all a numbers game.

sure, you can get every sound the beatles ever made, even john making a fart in a amp, but punk singles, old blue grass, there's so much out there that is still vinyl only.

i'm very happy about the turntables w/ usb connections....i might have to buy that to rip some of my vinyl collection that hasn't been released to cd so i can throw them on ebay for $$.

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An Elder Just Knocked on My Door

by DoodleBearRae in

i didn't bother to answer.

it's probably because i told my ex last week that i will personally sue the individual elders if they meet with my daughter again to counsel her without my parental consent.

we have joint custody and that means they need joint parental consent to counsel a minor.. i am filing for sole custody of our 12 year old daughter and will be serving him with the legal paperwork next week.

monophonic

sorry, i misread, you're already going through a lawyer.

good luck, i really hope it works out in your favor.

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An Elder Just Knocked on My Door

by DoodleBearRae in

i didn't bother to answer.

it's probably because i told my ex last week that i will personally sue the individual elders if they meet with my daughter again to counsel her without my parental consent.

we have joint custody and that means they need joint parental consent to counsel a minor.. i am filing for sole custody of our 12 year old daughter and will be serving him with the legal paperwork next week.

monophonic

so, you're inactive and were baptized and they counseled your 12 year old daughter w/o even offering for you to be there?

i think, i hope, that even goes against society rules.

did you send the letter yet? i wouldn't. i'd go to a lawyer first, you may have a case and you may want to pretend that you're still 'in' the org., but have had difficulties. any correspondence you give them could be used against you in a case, or even a case for getting full custody of your daughter.

you know if the society wants to get legal counsel involved, they'll give the local elders a game plan that could end up hurting your case.

i would be livid as well, but i'd be very careful right now and play it like a game of chess so you come out with full custody and maybe even a well publicized case against the society that will show your daughter that what they did was slimy as well as make others realize what goes on behind closed doors.

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Judicial Committees: What was it like selecting them?

by Open mind in

looking back over the years it's funny to me now how we selected committees for jcs.

it seems like there was always at least one barney fife, gestapo elder who was chomping at the bit to be selected.

rarely would a guy like that get selected.

monophonic

thank you, i forgot jealousy in my equation.

you bring up a good point...elders and elders who have stepped down that i know, they are pounded with congregation work, by the time they get to a committee they're already pissed that they have to devote more time from their personal lives to go through the JC process, which some elders, the ones with no families, no lives, will get excited and drag the process out when the others just want to get it over with and go home.

so, a JC is already a set up for a negative experience as those on the JC probably have full time jobs and have to put in an extra 30 hours of week of elder work including meetings, preaching, etc., throw a JC at them and they're not happy already.

and being in the elder mafia, b/c it is a mafia mentality, young elders have a hard time saying 'no' and older elders have figured out how to pass the shitty work to the new elders.

it's a set up for becoming a pissed, jealous human being, but not knowing why they're pissed and jealous and so they take it out on those who have genuine happiness, even though they're supposed to portray this 'spiritual well being' themselves, while inside they're seething....and don't even know it.

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Judicial Committees: What was it like selecting them?

by Open mind in

looking back over the years it's funny to me now how we selected committees for jcs.

it seems like there was always at least one barney fife, gestapo elder who was chomping at the bit to be selected.

rarely would a guy like that get selected.

monophonic

it's funny...i couldn't figure out why i was witch hunted in different halls, and i was straight as an arrow.

over the last year or so, ex girlfriends who i haven't talked to in over 10 years have gotten in touch with me and they all said that i had a passion for life and experience and there was 'a light' in me that threatened people...this almost exact quote came from three different exes who don't know each other.

my wife has told me the same thing.

my therapist has told me the same thing.

i've always thought outside the box, embraced relationships w/ men and women w/o thinking, i mean acting sexually on either, but the elders in different halls always assumed i was out to rape and fuck their daughters.

i was a fan of literature and experimental music and they couldn't put me in a box of what they thought was acceptable. i was a threat, either b/c they were jealous or because they were scared of how much i enjoyed life...and i'm talking even in the congregation, getting people together and having fun....they were on my ass.

looking back, it was their unhappiness, their inadequacies and their rage at never going to college, being ignorant and living their lives as short janitors while i had a different vision for my life. again, nothing 'sinful', just a drive for making the best of things.

ignorance + lack of intelligence + power = most elders

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So..You donate your money, and then you have to pay intrest on it??!!

by Lady Liberty in

good morning everyone "happy thursday!!",.

just reading another thread, and it made me think of a question i could never answer as a jw.

how is it that when your hall wants to build, you recieve the "loan" from the society, but then you have to pay the loan back with intrest??!!.

monophonic

so, congregations sell their hall, and the money goes to the society for the 'fund', then the society gives the 3% loans, don't hold the deed, but if a congregation dissolves or the hall is put up for sale to build a new hall, the money goes back to the society (with the profit from the real estate equity), then the process starts again.

and, they'd get more interest on that money w/ a simple ing direct account, but i'm sure they're invested in money market funds. so it's not really advantageous for them to loan the money to the congregations, but, there is a certain amount of control over the property sans liability.

essentially, when they want to bank out, they can say they've had new light and the great tribulation is about to start and everyone needs to dump the kingdom halls to meet in smaller groups at people's homes, then all moneys from the property go to the society for a 'fund' to help those being persecuted.

is that correct?

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What birthday age depressed you the most?

by FreedomFrog in

jw
friends

my birthday is coming up in a month.

i'm 35 and i'm so depressed about turning 36. i've heard people really get down when they were turning 25, 30, and other ages but non of my birthday's bothered me this much until now.

turning 36 is so depressing and i think it's because here i am single again trying to now start my career, my credit, my whole life over.

monophonic

my 30's have been great...i turn 38 next month...though i've seen some 38 year olds who look 48 b/c they haven't taken care of themselves.

i think 40 will trip me out a little and i'll probably have a big birthday party for it....but i have a lot to do still and i'll be working pretty hard in my 40's and 50's.

i've had some bad years, but not b/c of age depression. 17 & 20 were probably the worst, with 23 as a close behind and 24 turning awesome from there.

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Positive changes in your life since leaving WBTS

by Mrs Smith in

jw
friends

for me it's the friendships i have made with people that would have been considered too wordly to be friends with while i was still a jw.

leaving behind the guilt of never been good enough or doing enough.

celebrating the birthday of my precious children making them feel like king and queen for the day.

monophonic

[I finally feel alive. It is like I have come out of mental solitary confinement.]

i couldn't have said it better.

just not having to be racist anymore with the 'us and them' attitude and actually knowing that people don't have to be jws to be spiritual and that i can trust them and be great friends with them....not like i was indoctrinated to think that anyone worldly had ulterior motives for hanging out with me and that they were all selfish....kind of turned out all my friends within the borg were the ones with ulterior motives and they were the ones not to be trusted.

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Another news story today on abuse settlements...

by flipper in

a friend of mr f heard a story on kfbk sacramento radio news a little after 8 this am...3 people in woodland ca received their settlement money, and 7,000 others have come forward with accusations.

i can't find it anywhere - does anyone know about this?

danny?

monophonic

dude, you know i'd take a flight to hawaii if that was the case to help you if anyone pulled shit on your daughter.....you know i'd be completely useless for two days when i get there from teh xanax high to even get on a plane and i might be so scared to get back on a flight that i'd have to shack up with you for the rest of my life in hawaii, but we'd take care of any situation, our own version of a judicial committee. and just like them, above the law, keep it in the family, open a taco stand near the LOST location shooting w/ the meat of the transgressor....hurly would be our best customer....'wow, i've never tasted tacos so good, what are you guys using?'

'his name was steve'.