Posts by monophonic

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Actually sat through a whole meeting for the first time in 6 months

by B_Deserter in

a brother from my old hall was giving the talk so my brother (who lives with me and has no idea how i feel) signed us up for hospitality.

i decided i should at least make an appearance to stave off the storm a little.

man, i can barely stand being there.

monophonic

exact same conversation i've had with a relative who is still "in". i told them i couldn't ever let anything stupid being said from the platform without wanting a chance to make the person explain themselves on saying something so stupid....and to watch bobbing heads agree with it would make me freak out.

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Actually sat through a whole meeting for the first time in 6 months

by B_Deserter in

a brother from my old hall was giving the talk so my brother (who lives with me and has no idea how i feel) signed us up for hospitality.

i decided i should at least make an appearance to stave off the storm a little.

man, i can barely stand being there.

monophonic

i remember when i was 'in' and still bought in, there were a dozen times or so where we'd show up for the meeting, then a couple of us would sneak out and go to breakfast and come back halfway through watchtower.

to the original poster, i feel your pain, and when i do memorial for various family reasons....45 minutes of pain a year = i avoid a tornado of family shit i don't want to deal with, i take some xanax, have a flask with me that i don't mind using, and a pack of cigarettes in my pocket just for the hell of it.

life's lovely rituals.

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Silent Lambs

by BEROEAN in

so was this all about money or what?

i was hoping silent lambs would resist the money and push for the exposure of the criminals.

instead they cave in to the gag order and they took the money and ran!

monophonic

btw, you bring up a very good point re: the police and comparing the elders.

personally, i was friends with elders from when i was a little kid, and i'm very resolved not to hide my authentic self from any friends, family, associates.

i also have family who are on the police force and know that i do illegal stuff here and there, and they even do it themselves.

so, comparing the two is a bit subjective.

would someone confess all the laws they broke to a police officer who has no relationship with them? no.

would i discuss with my brother in law all night parties i'm going to that should be shut down by police because they're illegal? yes....i might not tell him where they are, but he wouldn't shun me for attending or promoting the parties. i also work with an organization that's doing something blatantly illegal as a protest to a current law. he knows i'm associated with them. still, he would never shun me or tell me i'm wrong....in fact, he has said to drop his name if i'm ever in any trouble.

i have never, in the seven congregations i was in growing up, seen any similar reasonableness among the elders....the minute a rule was broken, even a very light rule, even though i had been friends with them for life, they were up my ass and i probably have more experience in committee meetings on the other side than some elders.

and they weren't being merciful, i knew how to play the game in the backroom when needed and most of the time they were up my ass for stuff i never did and treated me guilty until proven innocent. it turned out there were some jealous sisters who planted fibs here and there b/c i wasn't into them and since they were pioneers and i was a lowly publisher, guess who gets to sit eight hours with elders trying to make them understand i hadn't been near _____ or ever ______, etc. so, in my experience, and the times i have dealt with the police when i've been busted for something, the police have been way more respectful, tolerant and trustworthy than any elder has ever been.

i faded years ago. if the elders saw my authentic self they would DF me in a second. just because i can't believe the wtbts is the spokesman for God. they would need no other reason, i would be an apostate and no longer and jehovah's witness and lose communication with any family and friends who are still witnesses.

not to say that police are the great sympathizers, but i'll take a cop any day over an elder.

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Silent Lambs

by BEROEAN in

so was this all about money or what?

i was hoping silent lambs would resist the money and push for the exposure of the criminals.

instead they cave in to the gag order and they took the money and ran!

monophonic

i'm glad you're on the forum, sorry for my assumption above.

keep up the research and i look forward to more postings and experiences from you.

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(Yawn topic) Your Favorite 80's shoe styles

by NotaNess in

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friends

1) reebok high tops with the tongue hanging out, and tight cuff jeans behind the tongue.

(any one want to start at fav 80's jeans thread??

don't make me bring up my tight levis with comb sticking out of my back pocket to comb my leif garrett feathered hair style).

monophonic

donde esta Creepers?

plain converse for skating, creepers for the club.

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Silent Lambs

by BEROEAN in

so was this all about money or what?

i was hoping silent lambs would resist the money and push for the exposure of the criminals.

instead they cave in to the gag order and they took the money and ran!

monophonic

i'm starting to think there might be an intention of bringing misinformation to this forum.

fortunately, many have good bs detectors here since we've dealt with enough of it during our time "in".

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Is violence ever justified or acceptable?

by ThomasCovenant in

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friends

sorry if this has been discussed a thousand times before.. .

my heart says no let's all get along and love each other and show respect to the individual.. my mind says yes.

unfortunately not everyone else agrees with the above.

monophonic

i'm going to muck this up, but, like chris rock said:

everyone deserves to get their asses kicked, just don't do it.

an old man deserves to be kicked down a flight of stairs, just don't do it.

or something to that effect. it was the bit where he didn't support OJ killing his wife, but he understood, because if his wife was cheating on him and the guy she was cheating on him with was also driving around town in his Pinto, he might feel compelled to kill them.

then he went on and on about how he would never, ever hit a woman, but he'd shake her until her weave fell out of her hair.

see, i haven't seen it in years.....so that's my horrid memory interpretation.

ah, i have my computer on random for music and "never give in" by pato banton just came on.

'life is a struggle, but we never give in."

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When Elders go too Far...

by BigBloomerz in

this is just something that really peed me off regarding the elders, is how low they are sinking to get gossip and stuff now, i was in contact with a well trusted friend of mine who used to attend meetings up until 2 years ago, his wife is still in the jw org, he was having a joke around on some text messages with me regarding my man saying "try before you buy" and so on, which i found amusing....lets just say his wife didnt...she snooped on his phone, wrote out the texts he had sent me and gave the transcript to the elders, and now he has to go before a judicial commitee.

how wrong is that, for a start its an invasion of privacy!

i was fuming yesterday when i found out.

monophonic

the wife is whacked and bringing in the elders on this idiotic situation, completely pathetic.

IF it was a real problem, these texts, she should've tried to work it out with her hubby herself.

it could be a cultural difference, some regions of the USA, believe it or not, are pretty open discussing sex, and the USA is looked upon as absurd for it's prude ways. I'm married and this is stuff my wife talks about with guys and girls and i talk about with guys and girls....the try before you buy innuendos, for anyone to be offended by that and think that the hubby is at fault and deserves the blatant disregard for the wife trying to work it out with him if she's uncomfortable instead of running to the elders....that's pathetic.

BTW, love the topic title, it sounds like the makings of a tv show.

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Who is playing mcdonalds monopoly?

by Blackboo in

i am....i bet everyone here has every stamp except the one they need to win.

for example broadwalk and venture avenue.

its no surprise because i believe there is only one stamp for boardwalk..and 5 venture avenue stamps.

monophonic

haven't eaten mcdonald's in over 15 years....any fast food in about 7 years....a read of 'fast food nation' will show the bs of the fast food industry....it has a lot of similarities to the misinformation of the wtbts.

the fast food industry is pretty horrid...unfortunately there aren't many choices outside of it in rural and some suburban areas.

i used to love taco bell, but seriously, give 'fast food nation' a read, i haven't touched a taco bell in seven years and these corporations are killing just about as many people as smoking...but all politics is too tied into the funding of these organizations, so they're untouchable, but litigious idiots can sue for second hand smoke and jump all over that while their kids are being pounded with fast food marketing and all my friends with kids can only get them to shut the hell up if they go buy their happy meals with toys and those dancing clowns.

smoke 'em if ya got 'em in the world of hypocrisy.

drive thru since idling car engines don't get the same media bs hype as second hand smoke.

this always intrigued me b/c the only script the JC ever uses to DF people for smoking should also be applied to running gas cars, using hair spray, etc. that corinthians one.

at one JC, when my fade finally dawned on me that i needed to get the hell out of there quick, they said since i smoked a few times, it could be looked upon as murder b/c of second hand smoke. all i could think of was their SUVs revvin' up in the parking lot.

no disrespect to the original poster who i don't feel has any ill intentions, but i was just reminded of the hypocrisy and twisting of scripture and culture b/c if it effects the global economy and reliance on oil too much, just sweep it under the rug...like most witness doctrines.

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Religious magazines

by monophonic in

are there any religious magazines that have similar print run stats and distribution as the watchtower and awake?

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mono

monophonic

are there any religious magazines that have similar print run stats and distribution as the watchtower and awake?

thanks,
mono