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  depressed

  by Vivamus in

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  2. medical

  i am depressed.

  really, really bad.

  its not like anything has happened, just the last few days, i am feeling terrible.

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  The depths of hurt felt over broken relationships actually increase the more we learn how shallow the source.

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  $$$Watchtower$$$ just MHO

  by CC Ryder in

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  2. friends

  i've read alot of great posts that contain experiences, opinions, and facts that show what the wts has as an ageneda.

  my own experiences and observations are as follows:.

  mind conrol: the wts weapon of choice to keep their ranks within their grasp so as not to influence the rest.

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  Thought provoking observation, CC.

  However, it cannot be ignored that the WTBTS Inc. as part of its marketing strategy does provide specific benefits, either real or imagined, for Jehovah's Witnesses in return for their financial and visible support.

  Just as with any consumer, current Jehovahs Witnesses feel the price they pay in time and money is well worth their perceived lifestyle purchase in spite of questionable production methods used by the manufacturer.

  Watchtower Inc. has probably been, for a quite some time now, one of the best marketers of American 'protectionist style', religious consumerism in terms of net financial gain because the corporation knows exactly the type of consumer that 'works' but more importantly, how to get rid of the ones who don't.
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  YOU'VE GOT TO SEE THIS!!!

  by Dia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've discovered one of the most amazing places, thanks to a poster here:.

  (i don't know how to create a link; please feel free if you do).

  there are video tapes and audio tapes and movies and cds and all kinds of stuff.

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  Ooooh...let me try!

  Unthinking Bleeps is, the 'bread and butter' the WTBTS Inc., loves ta keeps...

  Edited by - Flip on 8 August 2002 21:56:2
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  Who Here Believes in God?

  by The_Bad_Seed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  personally, i do not believe god ever has or ever will exist.

  i have my reasons -- i guess i could be considered an agnostic, rather than an athiest.

  i was curious to see what the larger part of the former borg community believed, now looking from the outside in, rather than the opposite.

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  Im absolutely convinced the realization of current concepts of a God doesnt exist.

  Otherwise the worlds accredited amateur & professional sporting commissions, in their pursuit of fair play for atheists, agnostics et al, would have banned either God or non-believers from the playing fields long ago. As the belief in One could enhance one's performance, would be considered an unfair advantage.

  Since there is no corrolation between a 'sporting' contestants success based on, belief in or lack of, cosmic forces...anyones concept of God...is not taken seriously.

  Case in point, during a curcial game for the Italian team at the recent World Cup the Italian coach needed a goal, soon. So it was televised spilling a vial of Holy Water on the turf and shortly thereafter the Italians got the goal.

  Perhaps, instead of a vial, the Italian coach brought a five gallon JUG of Holy Water, or a box full of Watchtowers and Awake! the Italian team would have won the game.
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  Keeping Witnesses Away

  by Dia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jewish people have mezuzas (sp?

  ) and others in history have used gargoyles to keep away evil spirits.... .

  looks like we could mount a smurf on our doorposts to keep jehovah's witnesses away.

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  Most Jehovah's Witnesses are always welcome at my door.

  Except maybe the head honcho Elder of the local congregation, who looked spooky wearing a black raincoat, checking on this interested prospect.

  He appeared a little to exasperated that I didn't take his perspective of imminent destruction seriously enough and I had the feeling the elder was thinking I was much too upbeat for my own good and less crusty Jehovah's Witnesses visitors.

  I enjoy our little 'chats' and as far as I know, I've never let on that for many years, elsewhere, I used to do exactly as my door to door visitors.

  In the past, my house has been a favorite stop for the rookies because they're assured an encouraging placement and fair bit of interesting questioning if I'm home.

  Although, they've been curiously absent for sometime, I'm a little concerned that the cat is out of bag...time will tell if paranoia has superseded our friendly 'chats'.

  Edited by - Flip on 31 July 2002 4:35:11
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  Why did the Tower Change the Watch ?

  by deddaisy in

  1. social
  2. current

  to get to the other side.........i'm actually going to work today, but wanted to post this old, but unusual article for anyone, such as myself, that hasn't seen it.....what was interesting was the claim that "revisions in legal structure" were dictated by the need to keep pace with growth.

  why then is bethel, as rumoured, downsizing, unless this growth has declined since this article was written.

  sorry i don't have a link......... .

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  THE SOCIETY RUNS a remarkable publishing empire...The Watchtowerhas a circulation of 22 million. - Daily News (New York)

  22mil Watchtowers divided by 5.2 mil publishers, equals 4.23 Watchtower magazines per Jehovahs Witness being chided into paying the prescribed cash donation is all that is required to meet the obligatory WTBTS bi-monthly dispersment quota.

  Using the 80-20 rule, predictably 80% of all Watchtowers per bi-monthly episode could quickly end up in landfills or, in the case of third-world communities, as insulation, fire-starter or cheap entertainment.

  A gregarious gaggle of disingenuous grandmothers, given enough time, could accomplish something similar.

  Edited by - Flip on 31 July 2002 3:15:12
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  Gutted about the Kingdom Ministry

  by kat7302 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its 2:15 am and i have to go to bed altho im not tired!

  i was so upset by that kingdom ministry about how to treat df ones.

  ill log off and when i sign back in in the morning, i hope to see 3546154263541658468154 posts on this making me smile and laugh cos im gonna need it!.

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  Kat' the only behavior more insidiously unpredictable than addictive, co-dependant dysfunctionalism, is institutionally pre-programmed denial and dysfunctionalism.

  Once, facing up to the psychotic onslaught, most likely, one can only learn to save oneself.

  You gotta' hand it to the corporate males who pull the heart strings of WTBTS adherents, they're very good at what they do.
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  Watchtower Aug 1st gives out conflicting signals

  by ozziepost in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  heard the expression "having a bet each way"?

  you know how it goes, someone doesn't want to give offense or get "offside" with readers, colleagues etc so they try and agree with two conflicting arguments simultaneously.

  the watchtower wouldn't do that, would it?

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  Thanks for posting those illustrations Nem', they're quite interesting and say a great deal.

  The football (soccer) ball is one of the most popular symbols in the world outside of most of North America.

  The most likely reason for the lack of popularity due to weak marketing of the sport in North America is because the lack of timeouts during a soccer game is not conducive to Western commercial televisions conventional methods of revenue generation as found, for example, with the endless stoppages in play during baseball, American football (not soccer) and basketball games ... I digress, sorry.

  Portraying images of boys handling footballs, and wearing football clothing in paradise must be an excellent market tool.

  The posted pictures appear to be designed to entice non-western or third-world children into becoming interested in an Organizations publications that promises to allow them to play out their fantasies, acting out on one of the few outlets they can afford to enjoy (next to copulating, which costs nothing in admission fees) in an environment that is most likely to be an improvement over their current situation.

  Also, the images make the Organization appear socially and culturally acceptable through out a large portion of the world because regardless of how corrupt the government that grants WTBTS sales authorization, even third-world bureaucrats love their football (soccer).

  This type of WTBTS sales marketing appears to be of the type that would be very effectivewhich is understandable, after all Brooklyn is relatively close to Madison Avenue. is it not.

  Edited by - Flip on 31 July 2002 0:55:10

  Edited by - Flip on 31 July 2002 0:56:18
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  New digital camera :-D

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ooo!

  ooo!

  i just got a new digital camera!

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  Lawn? it actually looks like Don King's other toupee!
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  My New Puppy

  by Bendrr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (fluff advisory: yadda yadda yadda).

  http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/7cfd2c28/bc/yahoo!+photo+album/trouble+the+puppy.jpg?bcjpbb9akc8pwoyl.

  all together now: awwwwww!

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  Flip

  BTW, It's good to see you posting again.

  LOL, Thanks Doug. I'm not as prolific a poster as most, thank goodness ...but the talent of everyone else here, in the words of Micheal Corleone, "...they keep dragging me back in!"