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  Is the "Holy Spirit" a person or a "force"?

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
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  i just love the information i get off this website.

  all of your(posters) comments and criticism have truly been educational to me.

  i have another question that i have been pondering since leaving the wts.

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  Re: Is the "Holy Spirit" a person or a "force"?

  Excuse me booker-t and the MG's, but I'am afraid you misspelled "farce".
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  bush, election, iraq, new draft, and local young JW baptism fad.

  by XQsThaiPoes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a number of jw kids including some that "got out once they truned 18" got baptized recently.

  i had no idea why.

  then i recal a conversation i had with a jw teen from a distant cong that was chaffing a bit under jwism.

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  ??until we are out of the mid east.?

  I heard some one once say, "If ?We? demand the best, most plentiful oil, for which there is no competitive alternative on the planet, ?We? will continue using young men and women as corporate hired guns to make sure mid-east oil delivery infrastructure remains under US corporate control and ?We? will be in the mid-east for a long?long?long???..long time. After all, both my SUV's demands it."

  So, unlike the sixties and seventies, get ready to welcome lot's of frightened, US female, teenaged Pioneers this time.
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  Is it personel??

  by vitty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you take it personely if you dont get many responses to a new topic?.

  i for one do get miffed if i dont get some replies and i do get upset sniff--- sniff.

  but i am still a newbie!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  Every serious post I have time to read, I find myself pondering. Every humorous one, I laugh to myself.

  That...validates me.

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  Why do many religious people dislike non-religious people?

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've noticed that usually when someone who is very religious finds out that i am an atheist, they become very agitated even though i never actually said anything negative about their religion.. are they embarrassed?.

  do they think i am condemning them?.

  do they see me as a threat?.

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  Most religious folk believe their world has survived as long as it has due to their ?promoting?, their version of God.

  Atheists, whether they act religious or not, are generally surprised the community of mankind has actually survived as well as it has in spite of what has been wrought by those who endorse so many God fantasies.
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  Does hollywood affect peoples view of history and world events?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  how much do you think movies, effect people knowledge of history or even world events today?

  there was a programme on channel4 a fews weeks back basically revealing conspiracy theroies about jfk assasination to be a load of nonsense.oliver stone defended his film (which this programe had torn apart) by saying well people know its just a film and dont believe everything in movies.

  but his missed a vital point , what if the film is all a person knows of that event.

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  Re: Does hollywood affect peoples view of history and world events?

  Due to brilliant marketing of Hollywood movies and American Television, I suspect, it?s easier for third world populations to watch American or European movies and television programming than it is for those hopeless millions to have access to food, medical aid, personal safety, let alone, have a shower.

  I sometimes wonder how poverty stricken, oppressed moviegoers in the Middle East or Central Africa are affected while they watch manufactured Western dominated television and movies about what must appear to them, to be rich, violent and uncaring westerners, who never seem to have to do an honest days work for their abundant riches while Western and European corporations suck the oil and mineral resources from their third world homeland like some 19 th century colonial vacuum cleaner.

  But, hey... who has time to care! Lord have mercy...I've got an SUV that guzzles gas like there's no tomorrow.
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  The Awake's Lying Image of Witnesses (Oct 22)

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you didn't know that the watchtower society published the awake magazine, you might.

  think it was published by some semi-liberal born again group.

  doesn't give a realistic representation of most witness families i'm aware of.. .

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  "At age 17, she solemnly told me and her mother that she wanted nothing further to do with the "truth"."

  And you think the Boys in Brooklyn (er...New York) might be concerned about that...

  Regardless of her conclusion after 17 years, a parent would have provided her and every other child in the family, by donating cash to the service counter for field-service and personal study...bi-monthly magazines, book-study books, reference materials, Bibles, Corporate behavior/training manuals disguised as children's religious story books and teen psuedo-guidance books, leaflets, and contribution-box donations on behalf of a child to absolve guilt, for the better part of 17 years.

  Perhaps not a huge sum over 17 years, but muliply the printed and non-printed product consumption of a typical, captive JW child, times millions of families and that's a lot of tax-free cash accumulated to invest in real-estate for Jehovah.

  Not to worry...the minute the Kingdom Hall door has slammed shut behind her, there'll be another JW kid along to do his/her stint as a consumer statistic for the next 17 years.

  Lament the loss?...naaah...Jehovah's "bean-counters" have an architects meeting in the morning.
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  why take the time to "fade"?

  by doogie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys,.

  i'm perplexed by something and i don't know how well it will be received on this board but i'm really curious.

  why did you take the time to fade away vs. just daing yourself?.

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  "why did you take the time to fade away vs. just DAing yourself?"

  Simple?someone once said, it?s better to fade because the WTBTS corporate financial exec's would rather you disassociate, immediately.

  I think what is meant is, the stigma of disassociation is generally absolute with less time than the fader to chip away at the stupor of WTBTS congregational publication buyers, thus perpetuating a more profitable bottom-line for Corporate Jehovah.

  Nothing personal, It's a business...the individual Jehovah's Witness is an expense until volumes of publications are purchased (donated) regularly and a liablility if not promoting the purchasing (donating) of said publications.
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  God Wants to Clear Up a Misunderstanding On Killing Your Neighbor!!!

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  new york?responding to recent events on earth, god, the omniscient creator-deity worshipped by billions of followers of various faiths for more than 6,000 years, angrily clarified his longtime stance against humans killing each other monday.. .

  "look, i don't know, maybe i haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the lord, his divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen twin towers.

  "somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that i want them to kill their neighbor.

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  God says, "...my bad"?

  LoL
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  Why Would Anyone Defend Jehovah's Witnesses??????????

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every so often, i will read on this board, how some people will defend and apologize for what jws do or believe in.....i just don't get it.

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  If the WTBTS was a financial client, or a potential financial client i.e. Chase Manhattan Bank, realtor, paper and printing equipment supplier or computer equipment supplier, etc. I would be singing, whole-heartedly, the praises of whatever it was my "gravy-train" customer does.

  That's the American Way, and the WTBTS...IS an American Corporation and beneficiary of that association even if the WTBTS chooses NOT to wave it's countries Flag for marketing purposes.

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  JW"S Banned In Moscow Today!

  by Ranch in

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  i was watching cnn and heard this announced.

  i also found this article at the following link.. http://www.iht.com/articles/525323.html

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  I'll try once more,

  "Once you get a decision like this, it's open season," John Burns, the group's Canadian lawyer, said after the ruling.

  Yes, it's very sad when uninformed followers have to suffer simply because two opposing ideologies having learned how to put a price on personal beliefs, feel the need for more greed, by competing for market share of some neon God, regardless of the poor individuals both corporations damage during their financial one-upmanship.

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