Oh yea I'm sure that was it. Thanks happy man, whatever would we do without your contributions to the board?
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10Thanks Phillyfesters, we had a great time!
by flower inat least my son and i did, i'm assuming the rest of ya'll did too .
for those of you who weren't there you'll never guess what happened at the restaurant.
were there talking about various things mostly related to our shared watchtower experiences and our waitress walks up behind me and taps me on my shoulder and asks if i'm a witness.
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Thanks Phillyfesters, we had a great time!
by flower inat least my son and i did, i'm assuming the rest of ya'll did too .
for those of you who weren't there you'll never guess what happened at the restaurant.
were there talking about various things mostly related to our shared watchtower experiences and our waitress walks up behind me and taps me on my shoulder and asks if i'm a witness.
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At least my son and I did, I'm assuming the rest of ya'll did too . It was really great to meet you all in person and talk without the use of my fingers lol. I hope you liked the place, I did but I won't be going back there without a disguise! LOL. Looking forward to 1a.
For those of you who weren't there you'll never guess what happened at the restaurant. Were there talking about various things mostly related to our shared Watchtower experiences and our waitress walks up behind me and taps me on my shoulder and asks if I'm a witness. She caught me way off guard and I'm stammering around for the right answer.
Apparently, she overheard certain JW words in our conversations. I finally just say something like 'not anymore' or something like that. She says that she is a witness and starts telling me how familiar I look and so I ask her what hall she goes to and she names an area that would have to be the same KH that my sister goes to currently but maybe not the same congregation because I think there are several sharing a hall.
She asks if we are all da'd and so I told we were. The way she asked it was like she was kinda surprised that we were clean-cut, well groomed, polite people and not wild heathens with horns sprouting from our heads. Or perhaps she was just surprised to find a whole group of xjws together. I think it would be a strange site for a witness to see.
When she asks me my sisters name and I told her I would prefer not to share it she tried to assure me that she wouldnt say anything to anyone because she had 'been where I am' and had been df'd before.
It was really wierd to say the least. I mean of all the tons of restaurants in the area and all the waitresses in that place she happened to be ours. If we were all not so shocked I'm sure one of us would have done something intelligent like told her a couple of the reasons we are no longer jw's. As it is we didnt plant any seeds of doubt except perhaps the fact that all xjw's are crazy, demon possesed people.
But other than that we had a really nice time.
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Are you naughty??
by safe4kids inok, time for another quiz, if anyone's interested... http://www.emode.com/emode/tests/nice_or_naughty.jsp.
but i hafta go back and take it again, coz it said i'm pretty tame!!!
obviously, there was a glitch in the processing of my answers!
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I got "You're better than bad, but not quite as good as it gets. Lying and cheating to get ahead isn't your style, but an occasional one-night stand isn't out of the question."
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Blood Issue and Hypocrisy
by teenyuck ini have told a couple of people on the board, thru e-mail, who i am, who my mother and family are.
i hope what i am about to post will not get my mother in trouble.
my mother met a man about 24 years ago.
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I agree with your second post Puffsrule. The fact that she didnt feel anything or say anything or think anything wrong with his taking blood says a whole lot.
Of course she has no legal right to try to keep blood from him BUT any jw who believed and was convinced of the rightness of the blood issue the way you say your mom is would have felt morally obligated to share this 'truth' with him so that he could do the right thing. And if they couldnt convince them not to take blood they would have at least felt a little bad about it. Yes your mother is a hypocrite for not feeling there is anything wrong with him taking blood. After all she is out preaching to others that taking blood is against Gods law.
As far as what Heaven said, your mom and this guy were friends for years so I would have to guess that the issue of her stand on blood had to have come up. She had to have at some point show him what the bible said therefore his rejecting the doctrine would mean, from her viewpoint, that he would be wicked in Gods eyes.
Dazed and confused, wow an rn that administers blood is ok with the congregation? that must have been changed into one of those 'conscience' decisions. didnt used to be that way.
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Ya'll dont believe in God?
by flower ini have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
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Crownboy,
If what you say is true then like I said to plmkrzy I do not consider myself a christian at all at the moment. I do believe in God and Christ and Holy spirit. But I think you and Mommy have a very narrorw view of what a christian has to believe. I dont believe that 'fornicators will not inherit the kingdom', some wont, some will. or that I have to perform certain works to get into Gods Kingdom. I dont even know what the Kingdom is or that its not already here. I dont have any desire to "see" God after I die. I dont subsribe to your circular reasonings at all. I do things for other people to make them feel better and I feel better in turn. I dont like to see people in pain because I know what it feels like and wouldnt wish it on anyone but my worst enemy. I can quite honestly say that since leaving dubville, I have not done a single thing for anyone with the slightest thought as to what God thinks or wants. So either I am not a christian or you guys need to broaden your description of a christian.
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Ya'll dont believe in God?
by flower ini have to ask this although i have a feeling i dont really want to read the responses but anyway.
i talked to several people here today who dont believe there is a god at all.
this is disturbing!
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Plmkrzy,
I hear what you are saying. I guess I dont agree that because I call myself a 'christian' that I have to believe and follow everything in the bible or that other christians do. When I call myself a christian, I mean that I whole heartedly believe in God/Jesus/Holy spirit. I dont know if they are one or three persons or spirits. I dont know a LOT of things. I dont even try to know most things right now. All I know (or feel rather)is that Jesus is real and good and cares. All I know is that since I opened my heart and poured all my problems out and gave them to Him I have had more happy days than ever before, things just keep going my way, my stress/anxiety level is at an all time low, I can cope with living with dubs that treat me like crap, I can just cope with life. I feel that is because I asked and I recieved. I admit I could be wrong, could just be pure luck..or the fact that I know the truth about the truth now. I dont know.
I dont belong to any religion and probably never will again. I call myself a christian only because I believe in christ Jesus. Perhaps I am not a christian at all. I am none of the things that have been described as christian so far. I dont feel the need to convert anyone. I dont care about being with Jesus in some afterlife. Or making it into some Kingdom of God. I'm sure this sounds ridiculous and I'm sure my views on all this will eventually change but at the moment this is it for me. I'm not even able to pick up the bible and read it right now.
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Blood Issue and Hypocrisy
by teenyuck ini have told a couple of people on the board, thru e-mail, who i am, who my mother and family are.
i hope what i am about to post will not get my mother in trouble.
my mother met a man about 24 years ago.
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WOW! I don't want to say anything bad about your mom but geez that is so sick. Let me see if i understand....The sanctity of blood means nothing to her. She only follows that rule because the society says she has to not because she wants to please Jehovah and follow his commands. The society cannot come after her or give her any flack with this guy because he is just a worldy person. If it was you her own daughter she would put up a fight so that she doesnt look bad or get any flack from the congregation. That is just appalling.
But I bet there are millions of other dubs who feel the same way. I just dont understand it. If they stepped back and looked at it they still cant see that they would be letting their child die for the 'organization' if they refused them blood not for jehovah? i mean this proves that its not about jehovah anyway. she admits that it doesnt bother her if there are no repercussions from the organizatin. she isnt worried about repercussions from jehovah. where in the bible does she see jehovah say only blood of witnesses is sacred?
i just dont get this.
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Not if, but when...
by teejay ini was raised in the truth.. it was about six weeks past my fifth birthday when my mother was contacted by "jehovah's people" and a few months short of my sixth when she got baptized a half year later.
that was the summer of 1962.. because of my experience with the truth from such an innocent age when thought patterns were first being formed, one of the tricks that was played on me one of the lies that was passed along is that some of those of my generation happened to be among the most fortunate of all of mankind since some of us would never die.
if i did my best; if i tried hard enough and did everything that was within my power to do; if i found favor with the most high god, i might well be one of those who'd never taste death at all but live right through this world's end into a global paradise.
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(((((((kilroy)))))) i wish i could help you in some way. the things that are keeping you from enjoying life are things that are within your control. you can beat them. if i can then i know anyone can.
take care,
flower
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First Post
by DINKY inhey guys!
i've been lurking for 2 yrs and finally decided to post.
seems like y'all need some new blood around here.
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Welcome Dinky!
You lurked for 2 years before posting? I lurked for about 2 hours :D I am like you in that I'm not interested in religion anymore but I still believe in God (i dont call him Jehovah anymore tho, thats the Watchtower god)
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Average age of apostates survey.
by sleepy ini thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.
1.age you left the watchtower.
(or age you found out it was wrong).
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I was raised in it from birth.
Baptized at 17 or 18 (cant remember)
Became inactive and irregular around 23.
Left at 25 (attended assemblies, memorials, c o visits).
Went back at 27 for a new start.
df'd at 27.
found out the 'truth' at 29.