i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.
i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.
parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.
Personally, I think this was a bit rude:I was also very much against the idea of me working my ass off to get the money for something and a fat old white guy getting the credit for it.Santa deserves more respect
lol...cute. i hope santa will forgive me and still bring me presents.
i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.
i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.
parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.
Respectfully disagreeing with someones opinion is one thing, telling them their opinion is silly and they should get over it is another. Rude no matter how you say it.
i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.
i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.
parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.
The debate about telling kids about Santa (telling them he isn't real or not) is just silly. Get over it.
Well with all due respect, it may be silly to you but I think its a bit harsh to expect everyone to be in the same place in life as you are. 'Get over it' is quite a bit harsh and frankly quite rude.
Elsewhere, I struggled with this for a couple of years because for one thing I couldnt handle the concept of delibrately lying to my kid and I also didnt like the idea of teaching my kid to be 'good' just so he could get presents from Santa thus enforcing the greed aspect that seems to be so prevalent these days. It seems like Xmas is more about getting than giving. I was also very much against the idea of me working my ass off to get the money for something and a fat old white guy getting the credit for it.
But really I think my opinion was very much influenced by my upbringing as a jw and I think I was making too big an issue out of it. I think now that it is fun for kids to believe in magic and fantasies for a few years. Reality will hit them soon enough and hard enough and reality isnt really all that fun. Why not give them a few innocent magical years to believe in fairy tales? Its not really 'lying' imo, anymore than its lying when I tell my kid he did a great job drawing a picture when I cant even figure out what its supposed to be.
I dont believe its as harmful as I used to think. After all millions if not billions of adults in the world grew up with the magic of Santa Claus and how many of them that you know have ill or negative feelings toward their parents for it? I dont know anyone who has been scarred by it. Personally I think I have more scars from not having those magical years.
bit of background.
i grew up as a jw i left the church when i was 14 because a ministerial servant who was conducting a one on one baptism study with me said that i couldn't ballance my dreams of being a professional singer with the so called "truth".
i stopped the study and told my mom i no longer wanted to be a witness.
shocked, sickened, angry, depressed, angry, really really angry, pissed off, even more pissed off, acceptance, happy to be free.
wanna feel like an old bastard?.
here's something to make you feel old... .
put your birth date in the pop up window after you click on the link below.. .
55 years 7 months younger than Walter Cronkite, age 88
52 years 1 month younger than Pope John Paul II, age 84
48 years 0 months younger than George Herbert Bush, age 80
40 years 9 months younger than Barbara Walters, age 73
38 years 7 months younger than Larry King, age 71
32 years 4 months younger than Ted Koppel, age 64
28 years 11 months younger than Geraldo Rivera, age 61
25 years 11 months younger than George W. Bush, age 58
20 years 11 months younger than Jesse Ventura, age 53
16 years 8 months younger than Bill Gates, age 49
11 years 10 months younger than Cal Ripken Jr., age 44
5 years 11 months younger than Mike Tyson, age 38
1 year 11 months younger than Jennifer Lopez, age 34
3 years 7 months older than Tiger Woods, age 28
10 years 0 months older than Prince William, age 22
nope I still dont feel old :-)
well friends it is almost time for turkey again.
i had the pleasure of meeting w/our friends xenawarrior, lauralisa, thunderrider and sheilam., for an early thanksgiving.
it would be nice if we could all sit down and have some food together, but until we get one of those star trek transporter thingies it just aint happenin.
Awww too bad your all the way out there in Cowboy country. :(
we had the c/o meeting this week and he confirmed on the platform that the watchtower is "experimenting" with television add's in the usa.
he also said that they are on 'community' television and are free.
anyone ever seen them?
I saw one last year...typical BS.
since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?
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Life is good. Freedom rocks.
mulan mentioned this on another thread and coincidentally, my daughter and i were discussing it today.
her jw boyfriend and his family have been talking about it...his little sister is making her list of gifts she wants, parents checking out the holiday flyers for good deals on video games etc.
i gather they get up early, have lots of presents and special meals and get together with extended family.
((gill)) i feel ya. My mother gave me two gifts in my life (and one was a field service bag!)
Heres to holidays and gift giving!
mulan mentioned this on another thread and coincidentally, my daughter and i were discussing it today.
her jw boyfriend and his family have been talking about it...his little sister is making her list of gifts she wants, parents checking out the holiday flyers for good deals on video games etc.
i gather they get up early, have lots of presents and special meals and get together with extended family.
We never did anything like that but I think its good for the jw kids. They need something.
