And it was also built thousands of years AFTER the flood of Noah supposedly happened. The people of Noah's time did not have the technology of the Romans.
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How to stump someone that believes the noah's flood happened.
by 5go inone of the key peices of evidence that people sight to try to prove the flood happen is the fact the most cultures have a flood myth or story as they put it.. i was just watching a program that also points out the most, if not all cultures believe in dragons.
even cultures that evolve in isolation have beliefs in dragons and they are all simular though not the same.
just like the flood myth.. so if they believe the flood happened because so many cultures have flood stories.
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Bogus numbers in the Evolution book
by B_Deserter indoes anyone know how they come up with statements like how the chances of the genesis account being right on the progression of life (which it wasn't, actually) was 1 in 3,000,000+ or something?
it seems like the ol' blue book was written by someone who failed statistics in college.
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Except that Genesis DIDNT get it right. All the available evidence shows that land animals came before flying creatures.
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Your most hated Kingdom Songs ever...
by B_Deserter inwe all know that skilled songwriters the brothers are not, so what are your most hated kingdom songs?
the ones that made you cringe when you saw them listed on the km or watchtower?
mine?.
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"Hail the Theocracy, ever increasing, wondrous expansion is now taking place"
They need to qualify that, it should be "Hail the Theocracy, ever increasing, wondrous expansion is now taking place (in the third-world)"
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Bogus numbers in the Evolution book
by B_Deserter indoes anyone know how they come up with statements like how the chances of the genesis account being right on the progression of life (which it wasn't, actually) was 1 in 3,000,000+ or something?
it seems like the ol' blue book was written by someone who failed statistics in college.
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Does anyone know how they come up with statements like how the chances of the Genesis account being right on the progression of life (which it wasn't, actually) was 1 in 3,000,000+ or something? It seems like the ol' blue book was written by someone who failed statistics in college.
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xxxx is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Honesty inis this getting to be a habit right after the announcements during tms/sm nights?
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Most people seek reinstatement because most people are disfellowshipped for either sex or drugs, not differences with the society. I would venture to guess that most are even repentant, but just repeat offenders which automatically means that you are unrepentant. Naturally, they think they're evil and immediately try to get back in "the truth." A lot of them either have no friends or have chosen really bad ones due to the naivety they had molded into them from childhood. Like kicks them around a few times, and they start thinking about how much better their life was in the organization. So after a while they right a letter, drink more Kool-Aid, and BAM, they're back in. They get the love bombing and an instant life. The sad thing is, most disfellowshipped people I think still believe witnesses have the truth, but feel unworthy of it somehow, so just resign themselves to thinking Jehovah will kill them one day.
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How to stump someone that believes the noah's flood happened.
by 5go inone of the key peices of evidence that people sight to try to prove the flood happen is the fact the most cultures have a flood myth or story as they put it.. i was just watching a program that also points out the most, if not all cultures believe in dragons.
even cultures that evolve in isolation have beliefs in dragons and they are all simular though not the same.
just like the flood myth.. so if they believe the flood happened because so many cultures have flood stories.
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Interestingly enough, the Noah special was on the Discovery Channel this evening and provided a lot of insight on why the literal Genesis flood story cannot be true.
1. It is not possible to build a floating object 450 feet long entirely out of wood. The ark's biblical dimensions were almost the size of the Titanic. A wooden structure that large would be subject to intense pulling and twisting stresses. It would develop multiple leaks per second as the joints separated and adjusted, and the whole ark would sink like a stone.
2. Noah would have trouble fitting the 30 million different species aboard a fleet of arks, let alone one. If one goes by the supposition that Noah only loaded some 250 animals specified as "clean" and "unclean" in the Old Testament, then how do we get the 30 million species we have today? The only answer to that is an extremely rapid evolutionary process that abruptly ended. Such an idea is utterly absurd.
3. Some have floated the idea that the earth was covered by a "cloud canopy" that provided enough water to cover the entire earth. The problem with this idea is that it is always presented by people with no background or understanding of meteorology. The sheer amount of water vapor needed to cover the earth would have exerted so much pressure and heat on the earth that it would been uninhabitable, having Noah and the rest of the world living in a 13,000 psi pressure cooker.
4. Archaeological evidence states that the Noah legend was first written by Jewish priests and scribes in the 6th century B.C.E. during the Babylonian captivity. It is most likely that they got the idea for their own version of the story from the Epic of Gilgamesh, an ancient Sumerian epic with many of the same story elements.
That said, the Noah story (i.e. the Jewish Epic of Gilgamesh) was most likely based on a true story. Unfortunately for Biblical literalists, it was probably a much more mundane one than they want to realize. -
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WERE YOU EVER A SUBJECT OF K. HALL GOSSIP???
by chuckyy inwhilst a jw, one thing that was evident to me was the constant gossip and backbiting.....being nice to someones face and then talking about them behind there backs.were you ever a "victim" of this sort of behaviour???
is it as common as i suspect from cong.
to cong???.
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There's a brother in my brother's hall who just got appointed to be an MS despite his rather serious (almost pathological) lying problem. He literally makes up stories about people and spreads them around. A friend of mine is interested in a sister in that hall so he comes down to visit a lot. Doesn't talk to her much at the hall so it wouldn't look too obvious. So brother gossip decided to spread around that my friend is "bothering" her, making him look like some sort of harassment freak.
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Has anyone ever run into someone REALLY CREEPY while out in service?
by Dorktacular ini know i've run into quite a few weirdos.
i had one guy that told us that adolph hitler was going to come back from the dead to kill all jws.
needless to say, he didn't want a copy of the watchtower!
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Not necessarily creepy, but we did run into a woman with dementia. We pulled up the driveway and saw her raking leaves with a garden rake. After a pleasant introduction she proceeded to tell us that 8 tornadoes had blown by her house last night, and we sure live in tornado alley (Michigan). She started talking about her "Guineas" and pointed to empty parts of the ground. Then she pointed to a section of clouds and said "well, there's another tornado right there!" As soon as I heard this, I thought to myself "ok, this woman isn't just a little eccentric, she's off her rocker."
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Inattentive elders...anyone else experience this?
by B_Deserter ineveryone always talks about the elders and people in the congregation coming around to see why you aren't at meetings...but i've never experienced this.
i've been away from the meetings for months, and not one single elder has called me.
my friends occasionally call me but never bring up my lackluster attendance.
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Everyone always talks about the elders and people in the congregation coming around to see why you aren't at meetings...but I've never experienced this. I've been away from the meetings for months, and not one single elder has called me. My friends occasionally call me but never bring up my lackluster attendance. Is this just the area I'm in or are elders everywhere just giving up right away now?
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Should I pretend to be Christian right now because of where I live?
by tsunami_rid3r inwhy didn't i follow the way of jesus and go to bethel?
along with my other topic dealing with my searching for my place in this town, i come across plenty of people who follow their parents, go to church, and vote for bush and all that boring stuff.
at subway today, there was a large group of happy christians ordering their food.
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It is better to know the truth about the universe rather than persist in a delusion, no matter how comforting.