so we know all the things the wts prevents us from doing, but that's much, much different than the stuff we've grown accustomed to.. for those who have been out for a number of years, what kind of things would end up being abandoned if you suddenly started going back to the kingdom hall?
you know, stuff that you now do on the nights you used to attend meetings, the things you own, the things you wear, etc..
I've been gone (faded) from the JW org now for 10 years and have also been absent from this board for quite a while.
I could NEVER go back after all these years because there is a LIFE or LIFE outside the org. And I would lose my life if I went back.
hello friends!.
i've been a member here for quite a while even though i haven't posted much the past few years.
i faded from jws starting in 2005 and it was the best decision i ever made.. i feel like i have grown spiritually because i'm no longer locked into a certain way of thinking as the society would have us do, being fearful of listening to other religious beliefs because they are a part of christendom and worst of all, because if one did while in the org.
Hello friends!
I've been a member here for quite a while even though I haven't posted much the past few years. I faded from JWs starting in 2005 and it was the best decision I ever made.
I feel like I have grown spiritually because I'm no longer locked into a certain way of thinking as the society would have us do, being fearful of listening to other religious beliefs because they are a part of christendom and worst of all, because if one did while in the org. they would be labeled as a apostate. Now that I'm out, I feel so much more free to explore what other faiths teach and believe. And I have learned a lot, saw different perspectives on basic Bible teachings, and realize the truth is something which one should be constantly seeking....it could be a lifelong journey for some of us. It certainly is in my case. I'm also on a quest for secular knowledge.
I just want to encourage all, in whatever path they are on or seeking, to just be aware and alert of what is going on around us--people seem to be walking around in a fog these days and I think it's up to us who come here and are willing to discuss things that might be fun, serious and/or uncomfortable, to continue to discuss. Be discerning to what so many Christian beliefs teach. Some may true; some may be false. My opinion is there are some things that we won't know for sure until they are upon us--for EXAMPLE: who/what is the "antichrist." Will it be a person, or an organization? When will he/she/it appear? Either way, we need to be able to recognize when it happens.
I find a few Christian pastors talk a lot about the books of Daniel and Revelation. Other pastors say the flock shouldn't try to understand them. They probably say that because they don't understand them themselves. But, I truly believe these two books of the Bible are most important to try to understand what is happening now.
Secularly, besides several books I have read, The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle blew me away. WOW! I had to pause after reading a few sentences throughout the entire book, and it's a small book but so profound; you have to let everything soak in. Many of you might say it's a "new age" book; maybe it is but I don't care. I'm after knowledge that resonates with me.
Other books which are on my list that I'm finding out are e-books are: It's Not About the Bike by Lance Armstrong and Business at the Speed of Thought by Bill Gates.
I don't mean to sound like I'm giving a book report (LOL) but just want to encourage you all to "keep on keeping on"; watch, look, listen, digest and decide what you want to be a part of who you are, and discard the rest.
speech?.
does not mean never expressing oneself.. it means speaking with graciousness,.
using gracious speech within the family.
Blondie! It's great to see your WT comments again. I peeked in this board every once in a while and couldn't find WT comments from anyone so I thought it wasn't being done anymore. I have always enjoyed them from you and V. Of course, I have been away from this board for a long time (working on my business) but I am sooooo glad I left (faded) the WT organization when I did in 2005. I have had all these years since then to reflect on the attitudes, teachings, treatment of the people in the org. and it's just wrong, wrong, wrong. It's amazing how just a few people up there in Bethel can have such a damaging affect on the attitudes of millions of people and the "flock" don't even realize it. But once you leave the org. the blinders come off and you think to yourself, "how in the world did I believe and put up with all this nonsense?"
Sorry all for the blank page I sent before this one...in my eagerness to post something, I pushed the submit button before I wrote anything....:)
Thank you for your comments, I totally agree with them, and now that I know they will be here I will visit more often.
speech?.
does not mean never expressing oneself.. it means speaking with graciousness,.
using gracious speech within the family.
what kind of manipulator do you think this guy is,,he's a real delusional manipulator i wounder if he even believes his own bs.. ciro aulicino:.
http://www.randytv.com/whatfutureholds.htm.
delusional to the extreme!
"Stay Alive till '75"....seems to me it would have been better to die before '75 just in case you were bad...then you'd have a chance of a resurrection rather than be destroyed at Armageddon. Hee Hee
in ancient times the easiest way to measure things was to use the most convenient measuring tools available that anybody could afford to own: your own body parts!.
yes, you could use your own foot to measure "feet".. you could use the width of your thumb to measure an inch (call it by whatever name you like.).
what you really needed (necessity) was to invent your own proof!
I was in the WT organization in 1975 and despite all the hoopla going on, I always felt in the back of my mind something was not right. Yes, I went out and distributed those Kingdom News tracts during that time. We were told not to have discussions with people at the door, but just leave the tracts, try to sound urgent with them, and move on. The purpose was to get as many distributed as possible. Maybe it was then that little nudgings in the back of my mind took hold but I stayed in the org. for about 20+ more years.
i have 2 sons who live close to each other.
thankfully, they are emotionally close despite the fact that the oldest never was baptized and therefore not bound by wt standards.. the youngest, the jw, had a birthday on the 1st of the month.
i wished him a happy one -- but, of course, only in my mind knowing that he would dismiss such a wish if he even talked with me on the phone.
This is because such celebrations focus too much attention on the individual
<<So how come its OK to celebrate Wedding Anniversaries?
Don't they focus attention on the individual, in that case two individuals.
Could never understand that.>>
Me either...
already had doubts from the time i got pubes... but i was about 15 and we were studying the revelation "book" for the upteenth time.
i realized for every actual bible verse they qouted there was 2-3 paragraphs of conjecture, assumption, faulty logic and just plain stupidity.
that's when i began to plan my escape.
I agree with all of you. But the Isaiah book really did it. Every other thought it seemed was an indictment against "anti-typical" Jerusalem aka "Christendom."
lecture on soddom and gomorrah.
very interesting.. .
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That was hilarious!!!
what would occur when christ was crowned king?.
on page 147 paragraph 16 of the publication, "you can live forever in paradise on earth," book - published by the governing body of the watchtower society, we find this statement made by them: "bible evidence shows that in the year 1914 c.e.
god's time arrived for christ to return and begin ruling.
I am sooo over interpretations of any kind. My stance is just to wait and see--isn't that all we can do anyway?
