Posts by Flowerpetal

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The End is coming Pretty Soon, Folks

by Flowerpetal in

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i have been inactive from jws since 2003. i don't post here very much -- do more reading than posting.

but i just had to tell y'all that i got a one-page tract this evening which is an invitation to attend the deliverance at hand convention.. yes...the end is coming pretty soon because never before in jw history has an invitation or tract been distributed to a city not designated a convention city.. the end is also coming pretty soon because i was told at the convention there will be a lot of talks about noah and what he faced.. in addition, the end is very near because later on this year there will be several announcements coming from the society.

wow!

Flowerpetal

DR:

If I had a penny for every time I heard the end was 'near,' I could have bought ;a Porsche years ago..

Me too, probably many Porsche's, because my mom became a witness in the 40's and she raised me to believe in the JW faith. I was baptized in 1959 at the age of 11 1/2 yrs. old....and thinking back on it, as I seem to be doing quite a bit lately.....what does a child at that age know what they're doing?

Anyway, growing up, Armageddon was always looming -- it was always "right around the corner."

I agree with Gary..they can do anything they want or say anything they want.

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The End is coming Pretty Soon, Folks

by Flowerpetal in

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i have been inactive from jws since 2003. i don't post here very much -- do more reading than posting.

but i just had to tell y'all that i got a one-page tract this evening which is an invitation to attend the deliverance at hand convention.. yes...the end is coming pretty soon because never before in jw history has an invitation or tract been distributed to a city not designated a convention city.. the end is also coming pretty soon because i was told at the convention there will be a lot of talks about noah and what he faced.. in addition, the end is very near because later on this year there will be several announcements coming from the society.

wow!

Flowerpetal

Maybe I shouldn't have put an exclamation point after the word "Wow"?

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The End is coming Pretty Soon, Folks

by Flowerpetal in

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i have been inactive from jws since 2003. i don't post here very much -- do more reading than posting.

but i just had to tell y'all that i got a one-page tract this evening which is an invitation to attend the deliverance at hand convention.. yes...the end is coming pretty soon because never before in jw history has an invitation or tract been distributed to a city not designated a convention city.. the end is also coming pretty soon because i was told at the convention there will be a lot of talks about noah and what he faced.. in addition, the end is very near because later on this year there will be several announcements coming from the society.

wow!

Flowerpetal

I have been inactive from JWs since 2003. I don't post here very much -- do more reading than posting. But I just had to tell y'all that I got a one-page tract this evening which is an invitation to attend the Deliverance at Hand Convention.

Yes...the end is coming pretty soon because never before in JW history has an invitation or tract been distributed to a city not designated a convention city.

The end is also coming pretty soon because I was told at the convention there will be a lot of talks about Noah and what he faced.

In addition, the end is very near because later on this year there will be several announcements coming from the society. Wow!

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-9-06 WT Study (TELL FINALE)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 7-9-06 wt study (june 1, 2006 issue date, pages 21-25)(tells finale).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Flowerpetal

Hi Blondie!

17) Jehovah apparently chose not to foresee what Adam--and Eve--would do, even though He has the ability to know everything in advance. It is therefore a question, not of whether Jehovah can foresee the future, but of whether he chooses to do so. Furthermore, we can reason that Jehovah, being a God of love, would not knowingly and cruelly predetermine that rebellion--with all its sad consequences--should take place. (Matthew 7:11; 1 John 4:8) Thus, as far as Jehovah's exercise of foreknowledge is concerned, it is selective.

Isn't there a difference between forseeing something and predetermining something?

Dictionary.com: Main Entry: fore·seeFunction: transitive verb
Inflected Forms: fore·saw; fore·seen; fore·see·ing
: to be aware of the reasonable possibility of (as an occurrence or development) beforehand

Dictionary.com: pre·de·ter·mine Pronunciation Key (pr
v. pre·de·ter·mined, pre·de·ter·min·ing, pre·de·ter·mines
v. tr.

To determine, decide, or establish in advance: “These factors predetermine to a large extent the outcome” (Jessica Mitford).
To influence or sway toward an action or opinion; predispose.

v. intr.

To determine or decide something in advance.

God can foresee something without having to predetermine what will happen. But this is what the society does, takes words of different meaning and apply them to the same thought so people don't see the difference.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-2-06 WT Study (INTEGRITY)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 07-02-06 wt study (may 15, 2006 issue date, pages 26-30)(integrity).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

Flowerpetal

Hi Blondie! Yes I'm still around As always, great comments on the WT study....and as you said:

"It's hard to believe that we are one month into summer in the Northern Hemisphere. Take advantage of the weekend if the weather is nice and get out and about. Our garden is taking off, the beans are forming, the cukes are peeking out and soon little tomatoes. We have been eating fresh strawberries we picked ourselves. Mmmmm."

Indeed!! Despite what goes on in the WTS world, vegetation still grows, the seasons come and go, whether we are "righteous or unrighteous" we still get blessings in the form of food from the earth.....life goes on!! Ahhhhhh......

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 1-23-05 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 1-23-05 wt study (december 15, 2004)

help through holy spirit.

in bible times, how did jehovah provide help through fellow believers?.

Flowerpetal

Then why do JWs end up going to the doors of those who aren?t interested? Why don?t the angels just direct them to "rightly disposed persons"?

Excellent point!!

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What happens when the faithful and discreet slave die off?

by JustTickledPink in

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i am a bit fuzzy, but i always remembered that the "faithful and discreet slave" were the annointed members of the governing body and that they were led by jehovah god.... of course according to the wts.. now, as they get older and other wts corporations have been formed and the president of the wts himself isn't of the "annointed" then what happens when the "annointed" governing body members who represent the "faithful and discreet slave" die off?.

where is the intermediatary between the regular jw's and jehovah?

what will happen to the light that kept getting brighter?

Flowerpetal

That's why I sense that the boys in Brooklyn/Patterson aren't really too upset when those Memorial Partaker numbers hold or even increase slightly yeart-to-year; it buys them time, and right now the organization's guiding precept is to hold it all together, nail down the doors, circle the wagons in the desperate hope Armageddon will ride in here at the last possible moment to save their bacon!

But they still print articles from time to time implying that there shouldn't be anyone claiming to be of the anointed at this time.....

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What happens when the faithful and discreet slave die off?

by JustTickledPink in

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friends

i am a bit fuzzy, but i always remembered that the "faithful and discreet slave" were the annointed members of the governing body and that they were led by jehovah god.... of course according to the wts.. now, as they get older and other wts corporations have been formed and the president of the wts himself isn't of the "annointed" then what happens when the "annointed" governing body members who represent the "faithful and discreet slave" die off?.

where is the intermediatary between the regular jw's and jehovah?

what will happen to the light that kept getting brighter?

Flowerpetal

Didnt they have some [4] replacemnets a while back...in one book I read it was mentioned an average age of 57 [?] or something like that?
The trouble is that 1914 doctrine and all the rest of the vested authority from that date has a "use by date" and it has to be up.
Also a rumor was heard in the colonies that one GB member has died most recently, [i dont know who] and is not being replaced.
Some CO/DO has told an audience that the Big A can only be two years away max, because the GB/FDS are dying off rapidly. Doh! I have eyes but I can not see....

Why do they have the need to keep trying to predict Armageddon [end?] when Jesus said no one knows the day or hour?

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For those of us with active JW parents

by JustTickledPink in

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there seem to a commonality around here about active jw parents shunning us.. my question is: if your parents weren't a jw, do you think they would be normal, act kindly, be a real parent to you?

or would they still be cold and callused towards you, controlling, etc.

my thought is this, so many times i used to think i wish my mom wasn't a jw because then i thought she would be this wonderful caring mother that i could go to lunch with, share shopping days with, recipes, and we'd be close.

Flowerpetal

From a mother's point of view:

I am now fading from the organization, but even during the past few years, when I was active, I had decided in my heart, that my two children, who are now 26 and 19, who I carried in my womb for 9 months, and Ifor whom I cared and loved while they infants, children, adolescents, that I would always love them unconditionally. I am so thankful that I didn't bow to the pressure to get them baptized at an early age. I left that decision up to them, figuring that when/if the time was right, they would do it on their own. So far, neither one has taken that step. They stopped going to meetings for many reasons and I could tell they were bored at the meetings, especially if we studied at home, and then came to the meetings and heard the stuff all over again. They were too smart for that. BUT if they had gotten baptized, and did something that had caused them to be d'fd., I would still embrace them. IMHO, a REAL mother wouldn't let go of those bonds ever for her children, no matter what they did.

The older one has a bachelor's degree and is thinking of going back to school to get her master's and my youngest is in college.

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Do You Think Your Family & Friends Will Ever Get Out Of The Religion??

by minimus in

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can you imagine certain ones making it out of the religion, somehow, sometime?

?

Flowerpetal

I told a very good friend of mine several months ago, that I had questions for a long time, and that I had started disagreeing with some JW teachings. She told me I should go and talk to the elders. And this is a person who lost all her "close" friends due to being d'fd. At the time of this happening, she was told by the elders that she had grieved the holy spirit by her actions. Now that she's re-instated, none of her "close" friends want anything to do with her and whenever she would come into town, she always contacted me...and we would go eat lunch. She would tell me at those times that she felt like she was still on the outside, she couldn't pray because of what the elders told her about what she had done to the holy spirit, and she didn't know how Jehovah felt towards her, but that she would go to the meetings whenever she could and just go thru the motions of being a JW. I knew what grieving the holy spirit was and told her she hadn't done that--and also found an article about what it meant to grieve the h.s. She felt so uplifted by the article and so the next time we met, and I told her about my disagreements with the society, abd why. And her answer was what I mentioned above. So now I wonder if I should consider her a good friend still if she has those feelings. I do hope I said some things that maybe she will consider and think about. She was supposed to move to another state, and I haven't heard from her as to whether she did or not. And I'm not going to contact her either. Other than her, I never had any close witness friends. My mom, who became a witness in 1941 died last year, so I don't have to worry about her. I have no brothers and sisters, and my husband is a witness but not spiritually-minded at all. He hasn't been to meetings in months due to work. Not that I equate spirituality with meetings, but I've never seen him just open the Bible to read it; he doesn't pray and we never talk about spiritual things. In fact, we hardly talk at all about things that matter. My children are not baptized nor attend meetings. Their ages are 25 and 19 respectively--so I'm just going to leave it at that.