Posts by theMartian

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Jehovah's Witnessees and the Truth vs the Lie

by AllTimeJeff in

there are several places on the internet where the hypocrisy of jehovah's witnesses is on full display.

what i am about to write is not new, but it is on my mind, so i thought i would write about it.

(disclaimer, i am an agnostic writing this, using the bible against jw lies.

theMartian

Idiot Post.

The scriptures are our guide- not the Tradition of Churchianity.

Following YOUR view, there are now many thousands of denominations teaching anything imaginable.

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

theMartian

No one's going to stand up for the Ghost-God?

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What do JW's do to make people think of Christ?

by DoubleVision in

is it when you see them out in service?.

is it when you walk into the kingdom hall?.

is it when they open with song?.

theMartian

That is typical of those who look to MEN to supply their FAITH.

All of us have many flaws. a group has MANY flaws.

For True Faith, one must focus on God and Christ- not Tradition or feely-good sermons that teach naught!

Jesus Christ is the one who will be putting an end to the nonsense...not Obama! Heh!

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How do the JWS interpret and view Matthew 16: 28 or Mark 9 : 1 ?

by Homerovah the Almighty in

matthew 16:28 verily i say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.

mark 9:1 and he said unto them, verily i say unto you, that there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of god come with power.

(av)

Since the scriptures show the dead are really....DEAD, and since Christ said there would be a Day when the dead would come out of the tombs, it should be clear that he wasn't saying no one was going to die anymore- UNTIL that Day!

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List Reasons Why YOU Would NEVER Go Back To The "Truth"

by minimus in

jw
friends

i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.

she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.

now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".

theMartian

Just follow the Yellow Brick Road! In your fantasy worlds, you might make it to Oz.

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

theMartian

The topic is What the Holy Spirit IS- not what people claim it does now...

The Holy SPIRIT ("Ghost" is a BLATENT mistranslation!) is

(1) Never seen in life or in vision with any face or form
(2) It is NEVER referred to with a name
(3) It is NEVER seen in the Visions where God & Christ are seen; God's on the throne, Christ is at His right hand- no Ghost on the left!
(4) It is referred to as "it" (Romans 8- example)
(5) It is described as being poured out, filling, and even being divided up (Numbers 11:17)
(6) It is seen radiating as a blinding light from the Temple in ancient Israel (Shekinah Light)
(7) Mary was conceived with child from Holy Spirit; she didn't have sex with a spirit creature! The angel even SAID what the Spirit was- --------------POWER from the Most High"
(8) When Jesus is baptised, the spirit appears not as a man or woman- but as a glowing light that John describes as "being shaped LIKE a dove"
(9) Pentecost: the new group of Christians were given a clear understanding of what God's Spirit is: He didn't have it appear as little faces above each ones head!.....NOPE!.....like tongues of flame (Flame being the form of energy EVERYONE used in that day), and they heard the sound of WIND (ruach/spirit) at it's arrival.

Now references made by by Christ, referring to it as "He" and "That One have been used to convince people that the above facts mean nothing- that it is a GHOST, a Being of a Godhead.
Yet, to understand what Christ REALLY meant is easy- if you WANT to: Christ- as Firstborn of all creation/creatures, the Beginning of the Creation by God- had been using the Power God gave him (Holy Spirit) for a long time before coming to earth- he used it to create the entire universe! So he NEVER thinks of it as just an energy, a force- even tho that is exactly what IT is. He thinks of the One sending it, and what the purpose is of his Father is when he thinks of the Spirit of
God- the most awesome force anywhere- the Holy Spirit. And so do all those directed by IT to write the scriptures!
So the references to greiving it, etc- are showing it's connection to the One behind it....Yahweh/Jehovah- the Only TRUE God.

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List Reasons Why YOU Would NEVER Go Back To The "Truth"

by minimus in

jw
friends

i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.

she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.

now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".

theMartian

The REAL Reasons:

1- I trusted in men, and bad examples turned me off

2- I have desires that aren't good

3- I worship myself

4- I just want to do as I want, and

5- Ignorance really is Bliss!

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

theMartian

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The ones claiming to have the Spirit don't even know what it is! Yes- "IT" as IT is referred to (Romans 8), and as the Hebrew and Greek langusge describe it.

Ever read of the visions seen of God where the Father is on the throne, the Son on his right side- and the Holy Spook on the left?

It really is an absurd concept started by the Catholic Church- and carried away with the 'Protestant' churches- who didn't want the rule of the pope and his legions!

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

theMartian

OK- I'm a JW- and appreciate your questioning- but NOT the deception that it's leading to (correct me if I'm wrong)...the-

alt Holy Spook!

And all the CLAIMS to having the "Gifts of the Spirit" are appalling; they can't heal as Christ did- raising the Dead, healing lopped of ears- wether a person had faith or not. AND they don't honor the One who Christ came to make known- His God & Father. Add to that their dispicable lies about God, such as Hellfire- actually make it clear that they DO have "Gifts"...but not from God-

Matthew 7:21-23

21- Not every one who says to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but he that does the will of my Father who is in the heavens.

22- Many shall say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied through *thy* name, and through *thy* name cast out demons, and through *thy* name done many works of power?

23- and then will I avow unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me, workers of lawlessness

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Do Muslems and Christains have the same God?

by Undecided in

jw
friends

the koran and the bible says to do the same acts of violence to anyone who worships a different god.. deuteronomy 13:6-8, it reads: "if thy brother, the son of thy mother.

or thy son, or thy daughter, or thy wife of thy bosom.

or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; (7) namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth unto the other end of the earth (8) thou shalt not consent unto him, nor harken unto him; neither shalt thou conceal him (9) but thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people.

theMartian

Nope the so-called Christians have this-

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the Muslims have this--

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Neither are the True God...