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Israeli Refusnik opinions?

by cookie in

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i am curious.. 1) does anyone on this board have an opinion about the refusnik movement occurring in israel?.

2) can anyone who has left the wt organization (for conscientious reasons) relate to the consequences of their present position?.

cookie

Shoo! More boring even than a man who has read only one book is a man playing a broken record. Are you recruiting for some Zionist-extremist group? That is the effect which you are having - whatever you may think to the contrary.

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cookie:

It sure is high time that the Palestinians, or "Palestinians" as some (not I) prefer, had a viable autonomous state all of their own, wholly distinct from Israel. And neither side allowed violent ones from their own side to cross into the other's territory.

The present position is highly complex. There is right and wrong on both sides. And while the Israelis have suffered a great deal (look at what happened to Israel at the hands of its neighbors from the time of its formation until that great man Anwar el-Sadat did what was necessary), on average the hapless Palestinians have suffered even more, IMO.

It should not be forgotten the Palestinian cause is a very convenient one for anti-semitic Arabs too. It suits them to have victims of Israeli aggression to hold up to the world. Instead of using them to make political capital, I would like to see Jordan (enormous in area, by comparison to Israel) collaborating with Israel, and carving out from both the territories presently under their control appropriate land for the Palestinians, to be their land forever.

And, do not forget, had the disgusting Nazis and their evil stooges not committed the unspeakable horrors of the Holocaust, there would never have been the motivation among the "great powers" - let alone the international consensus (in the form of a majority vote at the U.N.) on the issue - which swiftly gave the state of Israel political reality... a homeland where the Jews could be safe. In this rapid, staccato action, the rights of the existing occupants of the lands were not properly considered or legislated upon. And there lies the root of the Palestinian issue. Those ignorant of history and forensic history cannot see this, of course.

But we all know where 'an eye for an eye leads'. Each of us has the potential to screw things up for everyone else - and the obligation not to do so. - Focus, Collected Works, 2002.

For those with understanding, heed the wise words of warning here:

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Focus
(Santa Claws loves Anwar Sadat Class)

Edited by - Focus on 3 December 2002 17:44:11

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Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

God's pure language related to donkey's dangley dongles and steed's showery sprays have been circumcised. But do not forget:

Psalms 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Psalms 19:8
The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

Psalms 119:140
Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.

Proverbs 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

So, celebrate the Pure Language of the Lord!

unclebruce
Yes, I noticed some of the Mediocre Class saying you were not you. I hereby certify you are you.
A Merry Crittermas to you too!
And you are very welcome over here. Where is "there"?

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Focus
(Pro-ejaculation Class)

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Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

How dare some ignorant people say the Bible contains about a thousand mistakes? ?

Genesis 1:16
And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night

Focus 1,749
Fact: For any point on earth, the Moon is on average above the horizon for exactly as long during the day as it is during the night.

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Genesis 30:37-9
And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods. And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink. And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

Focus 1,782
What a load of figs.

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Focus
(Two Thousand Plus Class)

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Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

[Mediocrity Test].

A donkey wrote:

mediocre

Surf to:
http://groups.google.com

Enter the term:
mediocrity

Link the approximate number of matched results, as reported by Google, (i.e. 144,000) to the teachings of the Watchtower.

Discuss briefly the significance of the finding, with particular reference to the close of the Heavenly Calling, the Law(s) of Entropy, the 2,300 mornings/evenings, the measurements of the Great Pyramid at Giza/Gizeh (in imperial units) and the Biblical account of creation.

Here are two helpful contributions by one of my students:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7i35ts%24ebe%241%40nnrp1.deja.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=7i6b9q%24i43%241%40nnrp1.deja.com

[/Mediocrity Test]

Record the time spent on the above exercise.

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Focus
(Critter Class)

Edited by - Focus on 1 December 2002 21:6:59

189

Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

Zechariah wrote on Nov 30, 2002 23:30

Albert Einsteins theory of relativity said

It did not.

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Focus
(Puh-leeze! Class)

189

Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

Overheard in the John

Umberto Eco the Wise opined:
Whenever a poet or preacher, chief or wizard spouts gibberish, the human race spends centuries deciphering the message.

Retorted the Polytheist angrily:
My gods are too advanced for your finite mind. That is why you think of it as gibberish.

The monotheist interjected:
[[ usual material ridiculing the polytheist, while still retaining the basic thrust of the polytheist's contention, omitted ]]

Stephen L. Roberts the atheist pointed out to the monotheist:
I contend that we are both atheists. It is simply that I believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, then you will understand why I dismiss yours.

Focus irreverently butted in with:
But - hedging my bets - just in case, somehow, the set of gods is non-empty, I want its members to answer to me for a thing or trillion.

Mark Twain, with an abundance of semicolons, praises The Babble:
It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.

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Focus
(Agnostic-Skeptic-Clemens Hybrid Class)

Edited by - Focus on 1 December 2002 19:8:20

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Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

(1) Farkel responded on Nov 30, 2002 22:30 :

If you talk in another language people will think you are smart because they are clueless

Yep! See (2) below.

NOTHING keeps the idiots from responding!

(2) Quod erat demonstrandum. (for start of proof, see (1) above)

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Focus
(This does not constitute a response! Class)

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Donkey's never-ending atheism thread

by donkey in

wih the permission of simon, i would like to start a thread to act as a collection of thought, quotes and miscellany on atheism and agnosticism.

there are so many other threads on this subject but no one place which one can go to on here.

i have much to share - enjoy and contribute with me please.give me the storm and stress of thought and action rather than the dead calm of ignorance and faith.

Focus

I heard it said that:
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Focus
(Open Minded Class)

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You can't please all the people all the time

by Simon in

jw
friends

this is about running the forum:.

it's a balancing act.

it is impossible to please everyone all the time and i don't go out of my way to try to please anyone ... i just do what i think is right.. some good examples are controversial topics: if i lock or delete something that is controversial then i am accused of "stiffling free speech".

Focus

WHACK!!!

Some of you people can make me sick!

You support a vicious regime of muzzling innocent posters?

Want to know what I think of the muzzler?

See http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=41257&site=3 where the real action is, you wussies! If you dare.

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Focus
(You Know What They Say About Appearances.. Class)

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You can't please all the people all the time

by Simon in

jw
friends

this is about running the forum:.

it's a balancing act.

it is impossible to please everyone all the time and i don't go out of my way to try to please anyone ... i just do what i think is right.. some good examples are controversial topics: if i lock or delete something that is controversial then i am accused of "stiffling free speech".

Focus

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Many others - you have much to learn from the donkey.

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Focus
(FREE SPEECH and Claws Temporarily Retracted while Hugging Class)

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