at the silentlambs march in brooklyn ny on september 27, 2002 a woman made a public statement which began, .
i'm pat garza, and i'm here today because i was raped by theodore jaracz when i was a little girl, in the city of los angeles, he was district servant.
there are two boys; their initials are "m.v.
Having looked at this matter, I am much less than sure that the awful Mr Jaracz was guilty of this particular alleged crime. A certain amount of misquoting or confusion, if not twisting of words, has taken place. I don't say that any misrepresentation was deliberate, but I don't rule it out either.
These disgusting Spiritual-Pedophiles on the G.B. were and are guilty of so many crimes, we don't need to invent ones of which they aren't guilty.
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Focus
("Justice and Truth" Class)
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http://profiles.yahoo.com/akafocus
edited by - spannerintheworks on 12 november 2002 9:42:4.
deddaisy: Prominent Bethelite, who just happens to have a website comprised of his SECRET identity, have others supposedly post for him due to his HIGHLY SECRETIVE IDENTITY, and then be insulted when someone actually digs around and easily finds something.
As I have received recent correspondence about this matter from someone misled, and because Google has indexed this site for almost 15 years, there is no point in my being as reticent as I was all those years ago.
The above poster has gotten quite the wrong end of the stick. "Have a website" implies "owns or created the website", rather than "is the victim of a vicious and malicious website that was pseudonymously set up".
Yes, the scurrilous website:
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/scumbag
was produced, by a Usenet poster (using anonymizing remailers, else I would have nailed him) operating as "pimphunter" (who announced the /scumbag site online) solely so as to intimidate the PB and blackmail him into stopping his cult-bashing activities.
I strongly suggest you only surf there using at least an elementary proxy. The person who set it up, who quite evidently has parted company with his senses, may access the site again and obtain your IP address. Here's a very basic anonymous proxy:
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.angelfire.com/rant/scumbag
This farrago failed to produce the effect of stopping the PB, who instead of being deterred was motivated to increase the frequency and ferocity of his attacks.
The /scumbag site has had its worst pages, including one seriously defaming Tom Talley, and others actively and credibly soliciting my murder and listing evidence, some fabricated but some true, against me, removed by agencies unknown and not acting at my behest. These pages may still be found at archive.org, where I have ensured they remain as evidence.
By tricking the none-too-bright angelfire staff, "I" had obtained the IP addresses used to set up this /scumbag site, but they too were from a proxy that has now shut down. The NSA could identify the sender, but I rather doubt that they are interested in such nonsense.
The irony is that the person who took elaborate precautions that I could not track him down - it is a "him" - made an elementary blunder in what he did. He used a very out-of-date implementation of the PGP encryption system. Insignificant in itself, as it was still wholly uncrackable - but only one other person had used that version in any WTS-related online activity for more than a year previously (it had been used as a digital signature to guarantee authenticity, due to a lot of forgery that was going on to disrupt anti-WTS activities).
I therefore have, beyond most reasonable doubts, the identity of the sender, who is still active in the online jW scene. This person has an administrative role unconnected to jehovahs-witness.net.
The hook-up surprised me as that poster exhibited a very sanctimonious, Bible-loving and "holier-than-thou" persona, not quite that of someone issuing credible death threats. But, what lurks inside...
It did occur to me that this had been a false-flag attack, a set-up of an innocent, for motives unknown.
However, on my very recent return, the same real person (screen name different) reacted strongly and unfavorably, in a manner disproportionate to our previous communications which had always been reasonably polite.
This is further evidence that my deductions were correct.
All rather odd, and renders moot the question of whether the WTS makes people go mad, or whether it attracts people who were already mad. A bit of both, I suspect.
I do not take kindly to having my life threatened - even though the utterer of these threats was bluffing that he knew who I was and was merely seeking confirmation.
When I do act it will be both swift and disproportionate. My motive for posting this is given in Exodus 21:23-25.
But if there is serious injury, you are to take eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise, life for life.
Every child killed by the Watchtower's insane blood policies, every pedophile-victim caused by the Watchtower's evil "two witnesses" policy, each suicide or emotional ruination caused by the Watchtower's wicked shunning policies will be on my mind when I respond.
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Focus
("Revenge shall be mine" Class)
when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.
i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.
they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".
James, thank you, but surely this is Old Light.
All those years ago it was quite evident how this was orchestrated.
From pp 366, 368 & 376 of "Crisis of Conscience":
They seemed to be in an enormous hurry, a “rush to
judgment.” I do not personally think that this was of their own initiative.
As the chairman of the committee later acknowledged, they
were in communication with the Society’s representative, Circuit
Overseer Wesley Benner. Many of their expressions and attitudes
reflected remarkably those made by him in my home. He, in turn, was
almost certainly in touch with the Service Department of the Brooklyn
headquarters, and that department was—beyond any doubt—in
communication with the Governing Body....
I asked if they would not feel more confident if they had
confirmation of their viewpoint from the Governing Body? He repeated
that ‘they had to go by what was published,’ and that, anyway ‘they
had called Brooklyn on the matter.’ This was the first I had heard anything
about such a call. Evidently that was why, when I spoke to the
committee chairman, Elder French, on the phone two days earlier he
had said that the body of elders “did not feel it was necessary” to wait
for the Governing Body to answer my letter! They followed the same
secretive course followed earlier by the Chairman’s Committee and
apparently did not feel any need whatsoever to let me know that they
had already communicated by telephone with the Brooklyn headquarters.
I asked if they spoke with someone on the Governing Body. The
answer was, No, that they talked with a member of the Service Department.
What had they been told? French said they were told,
“Nothing has changed and you can go ahead.”...
Based upon my past experience on the Governing Body of Jehovah’s
Witnesses, upon the conduct of its Chairman’s Committee during the
spring of 1980, and also upon the material published from that time
until the present, my personal belief is that it was considered
“advantageous” that I be disfellowshiped so as to eliminate what
they considered a “threat.”
Even the still-deluded author thereof had grasped that it was all pre-ordained and fixed.
No admission from the Spiritual Filth concerned was needed.
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Focus
("Anti- WTS Crime" Class)
there's been a buzz on this forum - on and off but currently on - that there has not been an article in any watchtower publication on the blood ban for a while - which feeds speculation that the organization is distancing itself from this doctrinal absurdity.
does that mean there's been nothing mentioned about the blood doctrine for months or years?
specifically, when did the watchtower last mention the blood ban?
I approve of this thread and of almost every sentiment expressed therein.
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Focus
("Superior Authorities" Class)
nathan h. knorr was the third president of the watchtower society.
he was by mentality a clerk, with a fondness for instructing young male brooklyn bethel inductees as to what was the "right handling" of their genitalia.
it goes without saying he was a liar, a fraud, a hypocrite, a swindler, a conman and a thoroughly evil bastard, and let f.franz perpetrate the great 1975 hoax to boost membership, murdering the hopes of millions of elderly victims while so doing.. joseph f. "judge for 4 days" rutherford was the second president of the watchtower society.
Angelic channelling has provided me with another "entry":
"spinKles help the children forget the PenetraSHUN"
... "Indeed RatherFlawed/Fraud... peanuts too!"
My message to the channeller is: Rest assured, Focus's hatred for evil and wrongdoing is undiminished...
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Focus
("Retribution" Class)
i have always been attracted to very confident and self-assured women.
so sexy.
example - a girl who may not look like a skinny stick model at the beach in a bikini and rocking it.
There is no scriptural evidence that Jesus used such devices.
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Focus
("Theocratic" Class)
a minny man in a local congregation has a beard...he was bullied by the elders to remove it.. then the co came along and told the elders to allow him to keep his beard.
(not as the result of any skin condition or anything).. i kid you not!!!.
what do you make of that?.
(1) Prophets have beards. All the cartoons and comics say so, so it must be so.
(2) "Prophets" do not have beards. 'cos the Watchtower Sicksiety says so.
The WTS only changes for one or other of two reasons - fear (of lawsuits and losing money) and greed (infecting more victims, creating some new zaniness to differentiate themselves from the sane majority).
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Focus
(Anti-"Prophet" Class)
hey everyone,.
well me, fraz and laika had a little meetup before we went on holiday.....it was great to meet fraz for the first time.
our hols were teriffic and i have enjoyed dating too.
Kate, assuming you are in possession of (some of) your senses - I hope that wasn't too Wild an assumption - why would you want to go back to idiotic meetings droning on about things that are either preposterous, or false, or both?
Or did you put "Masochist" on your dating profile? If so, you won't mind the following:
WHACK!
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Focus
("Disbelieving" Class)
most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.
this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.
so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.
Your posts are full of red herrings (e.g., the United States Investment Company - what does it have to do with the propriety of these trust arrangements? I know of the later transfer - but what has it do with the pastors on the board of trustees?)
Let's ignore the red herrings.
THE OLD GOAT "EXPLANATION" (lol)
So in your ludicrous and ridiculous scenario, four clergymen of good standing:
(1) each contrived to get invited by or on behalf of Russell, their enemy, to stand as a trustee to protect and facilitate one of his shells (how could they have managed this?); and
(2) pretended not to know Russell was behind the setup (why would they pretend?); and
(3) even though this would lead to censure and ridicule for them (to what end? They were the ones made a fool of, not Russell, whose reputation as cunning and devious was well established already); and
(4) then lie and perhaps even commit perjury that they did not know this, when it all unraveled during the alimony proceedings (rendering them liable to an action for libel, as they complained further to the Eagle's reporter); and
(5) do this when a single testimony from Russell or any of his associates / friends that they were lying, with circumstantial evidence to show they must surely have known; would have been highly embarassing to them; and
(6) all four of them, united - if even one deviated from the story, the others were accepting the risk of irreparable damage to their reputations as honest clergymen. They had nothing to gain (Russell was a known sharp financial player - except to you, perhaps) and much to lose; and
(7) somehow these naive clergymen knew it would, many years later, all unravel in alimony court (how?)
Utterly absurd, from start to finish a nonsensical attempt to contrive an explanation for somehing I've explained with a single phrase - they "dealt" via a POWER OF ATTORNEY. They were perhaps a little naive but were telling the truth.
But then, the same lack of reasoning power and ability to weigh up facts and reach conclusions trapped you in the dub-dub-moronland to begin with, didn't it, Old Goat?
And then, even though you now know full well that you are wrong, persisting with your profound misconduct, twisting, misrepresenting, failing to address substantive issues, misdirection, creating strawmen, demanding unreasonable standards of evidence for something 100+ years old (where YOU, not I, are making the hard-to-believe claims, and you provide no proof)...
... seen it all before...
No doubt you made a despicable Elder, Old Goat.
Not that I need any trumpcard - all the above have removed any reasonable doubt - but just for the heck of it:
Furthermore, why didn't Russell use those arguments that you employ today, eh?
... in order to discredit the clergymen as liars, which he'd have loved to do. But, he did not. He kept quiet, both in and out of court. No letter to the press, no libel threat, nothing at all - just silence (and private laughter at how he'd tricked the four clergymen). He knew the clergymen could easily explain how they'd been tricked (and to some extent, they did).
If you aren't clever enough to see how ridiculous you are being, Old Goat, well, .... WHACK! (a recreational one, just to keep my foot in).
And this is to defend the reputation of a filthy, disgusting scoundrel - shame on you, shame, shame, shame, shame.
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Focus
("Rational" Class)
yep, that's right.
after all my friends and my efforts, the shunning carries on.. the 3 people who were shunning me at my local supermarket, still, are carrying on this practice.. little subtleties like avoiding eye contact, making busy as i walk past and looks out of the corner of their eyes.
you know the modus operandi.. nothing now the store can do about it.
quellycatface, if "we" do this piecemeal, the first time the Watchtower Society is held legally and financially responsible for the appalling mental damage done by its shunning policy, and made to pay some substantial sum - $10,000,000.00 would qualify - you bet it will be receiving NEW LIGHT that "Jehovah changed her mind about shunning" before even ten seconds has elapsed, and all those continuing to shun will be liable to be disfellowshipped.
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Focus
("Future" Class)
