And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
- Ex 33:23, KJV
So, does Yahweh have a cute backside? Only Moshe knew.
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has anyone really pondered what this means?
jehovah said that no man can see god and live, and here at least 70 people saw jehovah standing on a bright blue pavement.
24 then the lord said to moses, come up to the lord , you and aaron, nadab and abihu, and seventy of the elders of israel.
And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
- Ex 33:23, KJV
So, does Yahweh have a cute backside? Only Moshe knew.
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ae_1405660548.
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Shameful.
I can't reach a definite verdict on this tragedy (as yet) as I don't know what happened before, and there's an editing cut part way through.
But from the evidence I can see, it's a quite premature and unnecessary use of force by a bunch of cops on a person who is not wholly compliant, apparently frustrated by earlier interactions with cops - but is unthreatening, peaceable, reasonable and non-violent.
It's fair to comment that they clearly did not expect this appalling result. But the man was so evidently unfit that it should have made them exercise restraint.
The cop with the "99" top should be under arrest. He caught the victim unawares from the rear in a choke hold.
Were these cops bullied at school? Maybe by black people?
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the gb is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes.
blasphemy against god by claiming they "speak for jehovah".
they said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of jehovah and we should listen to those words.
Ultimate crimes merit ultimate punishments.
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speaking of dwight moody and his associates, pastor russell wrote:.
it is our thought that the lord used these men, and through their ministry the fore-ordained number was completed at the fore-ordained time, 1881. .
why 1881?.
Why 1881?
Why 1873?
Why 1874?
Why 1903?
Why 1911?
Why 1914?
Why 1915?
Why 1916?
Why 1918?
Why 1921?
Why 1925?
Why 1943?
Why 1975?
Why 2000?
Answer: To keep the scam going.
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i am in my early 30s and woke up to ttatt in late 2012. my dad just turned 65 in june!
wow, i never saw that being possible.. .
he just got himself a computer and was able to get internet in a remote location where he is serving as an elder with my mom (where the need is great) i was happy to see how he was able to send me a few notes saying hi and i was able to share some pictures of my wife and family, etc.. .
ever since that drunken CW Russell came out of one of his drunken stupors and created the JWs.
There is no evidence that C.T. Russell was an alcoholic. He founded the Watchtower Society, which was nothing like the jWs.
You mean Judge Rutherford, who was a confirmed drunken sot and who founded the jWs.
OP, your father is too far gone. Sorry. Do not build up expectations he can be cured.
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from the 2013 new world translation 2 tim.
all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. .
as jw's we must have read that scripture a thousand times.
Jehovah™ has a slow chariot
- verily, consider how long it took her to weekend in the Pleaides....
.... and not even made of iron!
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So he admits he lacks education ?
But does not connect this with the WT organization
telling him not to educate himself ?
He would rather turn his mind over and be programmed ?
He considers himself incapable of reason ?
What have they done to this poor bastard ?
Unbelievable. Its about fear !! Fear and shame.
They have destroyed the man.
Follow the lead ? Loving ? Holy cow.
There needs to be a 16 page dumbed down version
of Crisis of Conscience for these poor slobs.
villagegirl, I agree. But please realize that some are Sheep and some are Wolves. It was always that way.
And who says jws don't add to or write their own bible history
blondie, the Watchtower is not just a new Bible chapter twice a month, but occasionally a New Gospel too.
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from the 2013 new world translation 2 tim.
all scripture is inspired of god and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of god may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.. .
as jw's we must have read that scripture a thousand times.
I can leap tall buildings in a single bound, tear a phone book in half with my bare hands and turn lead into gold. I wrote a book about all my talents.
If you want proof that what I'm saying is true ("unalterable facts" you might say), just read my book...it's all in there.
But, Shirley, are you running ahead of Jehovah with sufficient speed to get away from the Spiritual-Anal-Rapist, the Ancient of Days? Insufficient speed results in unpleasant and permanent dilation.
Somewhere in the backwaters of JWN/JWD is a thread where my old friend "Uncle Bruce" put a delightful photo of a running man, with a bizarrely blissful look on his face, captioned something like "Running Ahead of Jehovah". I have not been able to find it, alas.
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http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/richard_dawkins_defends_mild_pedophilia_says_it_does_not_cause_lasting_harm/.
Good!
As we are not caught in the confines of Watchtowerinsanity, we do not all have to semi-blindly conform to the same beliefs "or else".
A waste to agree on everything, too, IMO. A healthy difference of opinion, accompanied by tolerance and respect for the reasonable views of others, is much more productive and likely to result in happiness in life.
I keep an open mind on most things, but not so open that the wind blows in one ear and out t'other. Hey, I have no incontrovertible proof that I exist.
Here, the questions raised are complex. If we take it that "thought crime" is not a crime, then drawing the line is problematic.
I know where I've drawn my own line between "right" and "wrong" - and it is drawn pretty harshly by me, to the extent that when merely showing friendliness to others' kids (having zero interest in kids in any, even remotely, sexual way) I consider whether it could possibly be misconstrued, let alone cause harm.
Where do others draw the line? Where would I like them to? Where does society and the law draw the line? All good questions.
I do say, and usually irrespective of ages, that where one party is in a position of authority over the other, to use that towards any sexual end is absolutely wrong.
Where exactly did Dawkins go wrong, KateWild? Perhaps I missed something.
Isn't it scandalous that the P.I.E. matter had been hushed up for so long? What a sick society in which we live...
Asking for apologies is not really appropriate Cofty. If someone is sincere they don't need to be asked, if you ask for an apology it's not sincere. Do you apologise if someone asks for an apology Cofty?
He has lost sight of Matt. 7:3-5. He started a thread calling for my shunning, if not banning, and then ran away when my friends and supporters began crawling out of the woodwork... I'm not holding my breath for an apology, either, hahaha. Life's far too short for all this nonsense.
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i was recently approached by a couple of borg drones while i was walking my dog, and i thought why not, may plant a seed or two (how wrong was i).
there was no real logic to what they were saying but as i was in the local park the conversation started to veer to how wonderful nature was and how this was the work of a wonderful creator.
i did not let on i was a former witness and let them continue with their fairy tale of creation and how the vast multitude of animals shows a loving god at work blah blah blah...... but i digress, the converastion then turned to how evolution was false.. apparently to earth is only a few thousand years old, so i mentioned about the burgess shale, to be met with blank stares.
NONE OF THAT STUFF IS REAL. ITS BEEN PLACED THERE BY SATAN AND HIS DEMONS TO DECEIVE MANKIND INTO NOT BELEIVING IN CREATION.
Old Light, still current.
Were johos amenable to logic, one would say that given that by their beliefs Satan is definitely (at least for the present) more powerful than "god", it makes good sense to worship Satan for the time being, and only switch when the end is truly close.
Oops, the end is always truly close in the Cloud-Watching Crazed Cuckoodom of the Watchtower!
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