Posts by tenyearsafter

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I Had A Dream About My iPhone Last Night.

by Philadelphia Ponos in

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first time in my life i had a dream about an object.

i've been experiencing many weird emotions every since i purcahsed this "phone".

i'm starting to understand the religious element that comes with owning apple products.

JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS

by strymeckirules in

what saying made it all around the country?.

the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.

"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".

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"it will be such a privelege to sit down with Moses, David and Noah to hear first hand their accounts of faithfulness"

"even if the system continues beyond our death, have we not benefited from living the "pure religion"?"

"I have already picked out the house I will be living in after Armageddon!"

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The Watchtower is NOT a false prophet

by The Quiet One in

regarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.

but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.

that would clearly have been a mistake.

tenyearsafter

TQO...the difference between Moses and the WTS is that Moses NEVER spoke on God's behalf something that didn't happen or come to be. He may have made human mistakes, but he never falsely prophesied. If you want to liken the WTS to Moses, then you have completely missed the mark in discerning truth from falsehood.

edit: JWF...we must have posted at the same time!

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The KINGDOM HALL topic.

by nicolaou in

i'm an atheist but i've recently been curious enough to sit quietly on the hard wooden pews of a local and very simple english village church - it was sweet, humble and surprisingly calming.. now, how exactly is this monstrosity supposed to motivate anyone?!.

what does it tell us about the mentality of the religions leaders?

does this look like a place of worship?

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Is it my imagination or does that first pic of the KH posted look like a mobile home?...oh well, at least it has windows!

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

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Exactly WTW!...

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

tenyearsafter

As Frank Sinatra sings, "nice and easy does it every time"!

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

tenyearsafter

Thanks everyone for the suggestions and thoughts! I am convinced that my wife may be the only key to "unlocking" the JW mindset in my mom. She wants to try and get through to mom, but she is concerned it could end up blowing up in her face. The one thing that has crystallized is how my wife feels about the JW religion...and it isn't good.

Wha Happened...Alvin Lee does kick on guitar!!

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

tenyearsafter

Good points from all, thank you...I am used to personal attacks, but I guess it just threw me when she tried to get my wife to "see the light"! Just seemed like a weird way to try and win someone over...and EE, I wish I had an elder in my congregation like you...might have made things more tolerable! :)

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

tenyearsafter

Hi mamalove...yes, she is in her 80's, but she is still as sharp as a tack. She has become less tolerant as she has aged, but she hasn't lost any of her mental agility. It is puzzling that she would use this tactic...

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Is this any way to get a convert??

by tenyearsafter in

i have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.

it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.

now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.

tenyearsafter

I have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a JW...and my not believing the JW story any longer as an ex-JW. It seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,

Now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head. My wife and I were visiting my mother (which we do weekly since no one other than my brother and I do...and I am DF'ed!), and I ran out to pick some things up for my mom, leaving my non-JW wife alone with my mom. My wife is a Christian, and my mom has always felt she could convert her to the JW way of thinking. As soon as I left the house, my mom immediately launched in to a tirade of how bad I was, that I am evil and a traitor to Jah, that my ex-wife was wonderful and put up with incredible hardship with me and that I was going to be destroyed at the big A! My wife was stunned at first and that soon turned to anger at the two faced attack on me behind my back. I have come to expect that odd double standard since leaving the JW's, but my wife was so angry she could barely speak after the one-sided "discussion".

If the intent was to "woo" a new convert, it was as far from the mark as it could be. If anything, my mom pretty much assured that my wife would NEVER accept JW's as a possible life choice. By the way, the minute I came back with her items from the store, she became the sweet mother again doting on her son. That really got to my wife!

Has anyone else had a similar experience with their loved ones, or is my mom just a special case of crazy?