Most Christians believe Hell is eternal seperation from God...in many ways, that is similar to JW's in belief. The concept of a literal burning Hell is becoming a minority understanding of the very fundamental sects. Even if a person refers to Hellfire, I seriously doubt that most actually believe in a literal fire and brimstone place.
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam init's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
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Anyone going to the memorial this year?
by Pyramid God ini was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.
anyone else?.
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Nicely said DNC...I will be celebrating the annual rejection of God's Son with King Crab legs and prime rib!
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Involved with a JW woman
by jonza inokay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
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Jonza, I have no doubt that you love this woman, and you have the final choice here, but you are already getting a glimpse of the future. You are only seeing a glimmer of the cult personality. The fact that she has a relationship with you, a "worldly man", convinces me that she feels she can change you once you are married. She has convinced herself that whatever she is doing now will be forgiven after she repents and brings you, a living offering, to the altar of the WT. This is a very tough situation...I would confront it head on. Tell her you will NEVER become a JW, and forbid any children to be raised as JW's...see what her reaction is. I am guessing she will say it is ok, but you will notice "tells" in her body language to the contrary.
Remember the old adage..."Men marry women hoping they will never change, and women marry men hoping they WILL change!"
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My personal movie review: Darren Aronofsky's NOAH
by Terry innoah, my movie review.
you may have already judged this film and you've never seen it!
like many of its critics, you think you know what you're going to see and .
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Hi Terry...thanks for your thoughtful review.
I do see that Aronofsky's attempt was to show the conflicted feelings of Noah and his family amidst the evil of his time and his service to the Creator. I would disagree that this was good film making. I found the movie to be plodding, dark and unable to define itself. If it weren't so controversial as to its authenticity, the movie would have faded away at the box office based on its merits. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait for it to end...just plain boring. I agree with others that have stated it would have been better to follow the biblical version for story content...it would make for more interesting viewing.
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First post after a year or two of lurking on this site-Sorry for the length!
by Pattytheperfect1 innot sure of the point of telling my story, but just got off the phone with my grandma and i am so angry, stressed and i don't know what else...i guess i just wanted to hear from someone other than my husband that i'm not crazy for my reaction to family interaction.. my condensed story gramatical errors and all :).
father was a born in jw, mother was a convert.
i was born the last of 3 siblings and shortly after my birth in 1981 my parents divorced.
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Welcome!
It's amazing how many variations of this story there are. It is terrible that you had to endure this during your formative years, though it sounds like you have found happiness away from the JW's. I am always amazed at how JW's elevate themselves as being "better" than the world, yet produce as many, if not more, dysfunctional families than the very "worldy" ones they condemn...what a bunch of hypocrites!!
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The Noah Movie
by Quarterback inwell, i saw it.
you better get ready for everyone's talk about it.. it was 25 % biblical, 75 % fantasy.. noah was mean as a character, his family was great.
methusala, was an old fart..
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I just saw it. I don't understand the uproar over the "environmental" theme and lack of Biblical authenticity...it wasn't really that obvious to the average person.
I went with the mindset that it was a fantasy movie, similar to Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit. For me it was just a mediocre movie that dragged frequently. The effects were so-so, and the acting passable. My overall take away was that this was a movie that would not stand up well on its own merits, but has been boosted by hype and bad publicity. Brilliant marketing, crappy movie.
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Involved with a JW woman
by jonza inokay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.
i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.
we're in love and seriously want to be together.
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If she is having sex with you now and she is an active JW, she knows what she is doing is wrong. There are only two outcomes to this...one, she will leave JW's and you will live happily ever after...or two, she get's conscience pangs, confesses her sins, takes her discipline and becomes a "good" JW. The second outcome will not be pleasant for you. She will start to pressure you to convert...and don't be surprised if she starts withholding sex and intimacy as a condition to your complying. Unless she is willing to abandon the JW's, you will be at risk of a tumultuous relationship. The last thing you need is strife and having the kids become a battle ground. I hope things work out for you...
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Ireland Bethel up for sale
by Mattieu inhttp://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.
whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.
does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.
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Sell and rent back is very common...WT will get the cash, and the locals will be stuck with the rent back cost. Pretty clever actually...
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What happened to the "Witness" part of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by donny ini just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home i saw two sets of jw's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.. the first pair walked past me and only said "good afternoon" as they passed.. about two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on april 14. i asked them why they chose the jw's as their church of choice and was told "we'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial.
if you contact the kingdom hall listed here, they will tell you more... on how god's kingdom will rid the world of satan and the evil associated with him.".
i replied "you can't talk now?".
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I like my wife's description of the Memorial from an outsider's point of view..."it has all the warmth of a tax seminar"!
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The Watchtower: Does This Game Of Jenga Ever End?
by metatron inthere are a great many fine posts here - and some from 8 years back - detailing how apathetic and perfunctory the organization has become.. and yet, it still stands, doesn't it?.
is there any point to be reached in this apparent 'experiment in sociology' in which they wake up and say 'screw this?
' if they crammed 10 congregations into one hall and stole the money, would any witnesses wake up?
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I am not convinced anything will wake everyone...if pedophilia cover ups, major "new light", flip flops on doctrine, etc. haven't done the trick, I don't know what will. If a person is brainwashed, it's tough to change that group think. Depressing thought, but an unfortunate reality...