Posts by tenyearsafter

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Military Service

by EXMS in

i need your guys help.. some of you might know some of my past from other posts...but new life changes have happened to me.. i have recently joined the united states navy.

i was orginally going in as a nuclear engineer...i have instead opted for a much less boring life in the advanced electronics computer field (aecf) rate.

my father's side of the family (who has been out for 20+ years) are very excited and proud of me for my decision.

EXMS...unfortunately, I don't think there is much you can say at this point to ease your mother's mind. In her mind, you have sided with Satan's system and as such have rejected God and his followers (her). Trying to reason with irrational responses doesn't work...time may soften her feelings, but if she is a strong JW, she will shun you. I wish I could offer more, but unfortunately this is the JW mind-set towards those they perceive as rejecting God and his organization. Good luck as you work your way through this...

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Undeserved Kindness vs Grace - Watchtower flaw in a NUTSHELL

by sabastious in

romans 1:7. new international version.

"to all in rome who are loved by god and called to be saints: .

grace and peace to you from god our father and from the lord jesus christ.".

tenyearsafter

It is interesting...this topic was one of the first things my non-JW wife noticed in discussing JW beliefs. It struck her as a complete disregard for the "gift of Grace" from God. To use the term of undeserved kindness "cheapens" the concept of Grace and makes it something that must be continually earned to keep...thus the emphasis of works for salvation in the JW life. Good topic!

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Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i went by a protest today.

someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

tenyearsafter

I don't understand DC...are you asking if the Right would be responsible for the flyers because the Left is pro-union? I doubt it is either mainstream side, but rather the fringe from either side who is responsible.

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Do you feel moved or obligated to check in on JW family?

by mamalove in

jw
friends

if you are being shunned, do you ever feel out of obligation that you should be the bigger person and check in on parents or siblings who are still jw's and have nothing to do with you?

i have reached out to my sibling and get zero back.

it hurts, and i am angry about it, yet from time to time i still feel a tenderness in my heart and let it be known that the love and care and concern is there.

tenyearsafter

I check in on my Mom and brother (they still talk to me under guise of "family biz"), but everyone else has faded from my life.

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Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i went by a protest today.

someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

tenyearsafter

Hi NC...I wasn't making a judgement on the Occupy movement. Whether I agree or not with Occupy Movement, things like this flyer do nothing but hurt everyone. If it was put out by anarchists siding with Occupy Movement or right wing militia types trying to sabotage the Occupy Movement, it will ultimately hurt any good that can come from the protests. There are a lot of crazies out there, but if something happens, people remember where it happened and not necessarily who was responsible for the event.

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Further proof of no real message in OCCUPY

by free2beme in

jw
friends

i went by a protest today.

someone was holding a sign to "stop big banks now," basically saying they agree with the government taking control of the banks and what they do.

next to this person, was a person holding a sign that said, "make marijuana legal!

tenyearsafter

Regardless of which side you are on, this type of stuff will not help the Occupy Movement...and no one really knows who is behind it:

PHOENIX, Ariz. — A flyer surfaced at 'Occupy Phoenix' that encourages the shooting of police officers, asking "When should you shoot a cop?"

A sheriff's deputy found the disturbing flyer at the Cesar Chavez Plaza and reported it to the Arizona Counter Terrorism Information Center, according to KPHO. Officials informed all local law enforcement agencies, who are investigating.

"Our investigation has begun, we're trying to determine who distributed those flyers. Who authored those," Bart Graves of the Arizona Department of Public Safety said.

Two 'Occupy' protesters claimed their group was not responsible, and they told TV reporters that the message doesn't help the movement's image.

Although officials say no credible threats against law enforcement have been uncovered, the flyer chillingly advocates for cop killers and elevates them to almost hero status, Conservative Byte reported.

"The next time you hear of a police officer being killed "’in the line of duty,’ take a moment to consider the very real possibility that maybe in that case, the ‘law enforcer’ was the bad guy and the ‘cop killer’ was the good guy," the flyer reportedly read.

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How many?...

by tenyearsafter in

i couldn't find if this has been discussed in the past, but do we have any idea how many former posters/apostates from this forum have actually returned to the jw's?

i am not talking about those that were reinstated for family reasons, but rather, those that actually had a change of heart and "repented" to become active jw's again?

i can't imagine it is many, but would be curious if anyone knows individuals that have gone back because they truly believed again?

tenyearsafter

lilbluekitty...no, I am just curious if there have actually been any appreciable number that have returned because they felt it was the truth. I am not talking about people who have been reinstated for reasons of family, etc.

erbie...you are correct, the line between love and hate can be blurred. I don't know if I agree that most people leave because they dislike people...I think they are more likely to leave because of disenchantment with policies or teachings of the WTS.

dgp...I agree, and that's where I was going with the question. It would be fascinating to know if people have actually gone back because they "saw the light"!

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How many?...

by tenyearsafter in

i couldn't find if this has been discussed in the past, but do we have any idea how many former posters/apostates from this forum have actually returned to the jw's?

i am not talking about those that were reinstated for family reasons, but rather, those that actually had a change of heart and "repented" to become active jw's again?

i can't imagine it is many, but would be curious if anyone knows individuals that have gone back because they truly believed again?

tenyearsafter

I couldn't find if this has been discussed in the past, but do we have any idea how many former posters/apostates from this forum have actually returned to the JW's? I am not talking about those that were reinstated for family reasons, but rather, those that actually had a change of heart and "repented" to become active JW's again? I can't imagine it is many, but would be curious if anyone knows individuals that have gone back because they truly believed again?

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