Hi mamalove...yes, she is in her 80's, but she is still as sharp as a tack. She has become less tolerant as she has aged, but she hasn't lost any of her mental agility. It is puzzling that she would use this tactic...
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Is this any way to get a convert??
by tenyearsafter ini have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.
it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.
now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.
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Is this any way to get a convert??
by tenyearsafter ini have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a jw...and my not believing the jw story any longer as an ex-jw.
it seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,.
now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head.
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I have relayed how "broken" my mother is when it comes to reasoning on her beliefs as a JW...and my not believing the JW story any longer as an ex-JW. It seems to be a common story of cognitive dissonance, etc., etc,
Now comes a classic new angle that really has me scratching my head. My wife and I were visiting my mother (which we do weekly since no one other than my brother and I do...and I am DF'ed!), and I ran out to pick some things up for my mom, leaving my non-JW wife alone with my mom. My wife is a Christian, and my mom has always felt she could convert her to the JW way of thinking. As soon as I left the house, my mom immediately launched in to a tirade of how bad I was, that I am evil and a traitor to Jah, that my ex-wife was wonderful and put up with incredible hardship with me and that I was going to be destroyed at the big A! My wife was stunned at first and that soon turned to anger at the two faced attack on me behind my back. I have come to expect that odd double standard since leaving the JW's, but my wife was so angry she could barely speak after the one-sided "discussion".
If the intent was to "woo" a new convert, it was as far from the mark as it could be. If anything, my mom pretty much assured that my wife would NEVER accept JW's as a possible life choice. By the way, the minute I came back with her items from the store, she became the sweet mother again doting on her son. That really got to my wife!
Has anyone else had a similar experience with their loved ones, or is my mom just a special case of crazy?
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The biggest lie
by sizemik init's the biggest lie that's ever been told .
a lie i've heard more than any other .
all through my life i keep hearing it.. everybody tells it .
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I think one of the best sayings about this subject is:
"Everyone wants to go to Heaven...but nobody wants to die to get there!"
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Famous ex-Jws
by ekruks inmichelle rodriguez used to be a jehovah's witness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/michelle_rodriguez.
i am just wondering if we can make a list of famous people that used to be jws, i.e.
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Terence Howard has taken a run at it, but I don't think he could make the commitment to take the plunge...
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Famous ex-Jws
by ekruks inmichelle rodriguez used to be a jehovah's witness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/michelle_rodriguez.
i am just wondering if we can make a list of famous people that used to be jws, i.e.
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I may be wrong, but I think Roger Ebert was quoting someone else in regard to JW's...I don't believe he was raised as one.
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In regard to Lee Strobel, discrediting him because he was a mega-church pastor is a bit of a red herring argument. Lee became a teaching pastor after his conversion to Christianity, not a Christian so he could become a pastor. I have met and talked with Lee, and though you may not agree with the conclusions he has drawn, you cannot deny his sincerity in making the choice he did. For people to infer that anyone who converts to theism from atheism is "mentally defective" (sound familaiar?) or has an ulterior motive is disengenuous. If the same argument was presented against theists converting to atheism, there would be a call of foul made by the atheists out there. Why can't we agree that each person makes their own spiritual (or non-spiritual) journey in life without inferring that the opposing viewpoint is "shady" or in need of psychiatric treatment? In the words of the famous philosopher Rodney King, "can't we all just get along?"
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Have any other religion flip-flopped doctrinally?
by stillstuckcruz ini am attempting to see if a comparison can be made to other religions.
obviously we all know that jw's have fip-flopped on many doctrinal issues.
but are there any other religions and cults that have done this?
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Worldwide Chucrch of God after Herbert Armstrong died. They were very similar to JW's during Armstrong's tenure, and after his death the church repudiated his teachings and embraced more orthodox Christian doctrine (ie: Trinity, Hell, etc.).
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The Christmas Star??
by Butterflyleia85 inso remember the bible story book chapter 86 men guided by a star... remember it said that satan is the one who must have made that star shine because it was leading the chief priests that was brought by herod who in fact wanted jesus killed!
matthew 2:1-23; micah 5:2. ok so i was reading out of my son's christmas book that his grandma gave him.
it has a part "following the star"...wise men heard about the birth of jesus, the new king.
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This thread also talks about what the Star could have been...intriguing:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/203730/1/The-Star-of-Bethlehem-very-interesting
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Brother Kavelin injured in Santa Monica?
by NikL inwe just received this e mail.
it may or may not be true but it is making the rounds in dubdom.. here ya go.... just a quick note to let you know that out of the 9 dead and some .
injured in the run away car incident at the farmer's market in santa.
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Dagney, your post is blank.
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How was the singing in your congro?
by karter inmine as best abysmal.. we had brother ..i can't sing in tune but will sing louder than anyone else.. sister trained opera voice that sang a note or 3 above everyone else.. the rest were just down rite dreadfull..
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Overall, terrible...but there always was the or two in the hall that were great singers. Unfortunately, that made the rest of the crew sound even worse! The fact that the pre-recorded music was dreary to begin with, didn't give the joyous noise much of a chance to begin with.