No one in the congregation spoke up or noticed, but now that the media has gotten hold of the story, I can guarantee a JC is being formed. Why be pro-active when you can be reactive?...
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Jehovahs Witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juices
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/jehovahs-witnesses-couple-from-jupiter-accused-of-/nyhx3/.
posted: 2:50 p.m. tuesday, june 11, 2013. jehovah's witnesses couple accused of neglecting child by feeding only fruits, vegetables and juicescomment(31) 21 191 22 477relatedview larger louis, claudelview larger louis, vanessaby alexandra seltzerpalm beach post staff writer.
a suburban jupiter couple is in the county jail today after they refused to give their 19-month-old boy the nutrients he needed, causing him to end up in a local hospital's intensive care unit.claudel and vanessa louis face charges of neglect of a child with great bodily harm.palm beach county sheriff's deputies were called to st. mary's medical center in west palm beach on june 5 to investigate the child neglect case.. the 19-month-old boy was admitted to the hospital may 24 after he had trouble breathing.the boy's doctor told the investigating deputy that the boy was severely malnourished, underdeveloped and was in respiratory distress, according to a sheriff's probable-cause affidavit.
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Since you've left, are you still good friends with your bestest JW buddies?
by Julia Orwell inis it possible that someone has a jw friend who's very active in the congregation, knows you don't believe it anymore, and is still your friend?
i'm at the point where word is getting out that i'm not going to meetings anymore, and friends ask me if they'll be seeing me at the ca and i tell them i'm not going.
they want to know why, and what they can do to encourage me.
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Not a one...in fact, I have never been contacted by the Elders or any "friends" in the over 20 years since I was DF'ed. My JW mother and brother are the only ones with any contact...and that is limited.
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
by cantleave in"without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?
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Interesting read Cantleave...and I agree that religion alone does not establish morality, but that still doesn't resolve (and it probably can't for a certainty either way) whether morals requires the existence of a deity or intelligent designer. It ultimately comes down to faith and belief in either argument.
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
by cantleave in"without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?
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I guess I view empathy as an emotion, where morals are a set of inate values. The way I read the quoted material was that the empathic brain reacts to the facial expressions and actions that others experience. I see not doing certain things (kill, rape, steal) as an inate value...even remote cultures have certain inate values that aren't violated without sanction.
Sorry if I am not being very clear today!
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
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New Hope...I think you need to seperate the parts of your question. One part is the belief in God or an Intelligent Designer (the supernatural), and the other is belief in the Bible or orher "holy" book. One does not preclude the other. The biggest divider between believers and Atheists is their view of the supernatural versus the natural world. If the supernatural can't be accepted, than neither can the existence of a deity.
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
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HB001...I agree, religion has not been a great leader in morality. Religion is man-made, so it is subject to the same flaws as everything else man-made. Belief in a designer is different than religion.
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
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Good research S.
I agree that the things mentioned in the study make sense, especially when it comes to autonomic functions such as dawing back from pain. We don't have to burn ourselves to prove that it will hurt if we see someone else experience it (unless, of course, you are one of the Jackass guys!). I guess I don't quite see the connection from empathy to morality...even if I never saw or experienced murder, I would not be tempted to commit murder.
Psychopaths are unique...obviously, abnormal brain changes allow them to do what they do. And yes, they hide to avoid repercussions...because they know what they do is not accepted by society as a whole. They may not feel guilt or empathy, but they still know it is wrong based on societal values.
Great discussion!
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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?
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Thanks Ding...you summarized what I was trying to say in my ramblings!
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Satanus, I absolutely respect your opinion.
If I were argumentative (which I am not! LOL), I could ask where empathy originates from...would it be a necesssary evolution of pre-humans? I agree that any inate belief or feeling can be overidden by the factors you mentioned (many of those actions I would call "free will"). Psychopaths or Sociopaths are exceptions, yet I still believe they know what they are doing is wrong...otherwise they wouldn't conceal their actions or avoid the authorities.
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Satanus, good point...but we still have free will to choose what we want to do. Maybe "absolute" is the wrong description, but I was trying to distinguish between the two levels of morality. I think the bigger issue is, if there were no inate moral guidelines that are common to society, we would end up with cultures where murder, rape, theft, etc. would be perfectly acceptable and legal. As far as I know, there are no cultures where those are universally accepted concepts. Certainly there are elements within the culture that do those things, but they would not be considered "legal" or moral. If we were to make blanket assumptions like that, we would say that every Muslim is a murderous terroist or every Hindu believes in murdering their wives rather than divorcing them...which we know is not true. Choice comes in to play, but that does not make it acceptable to the culture it occurs in.