Posts by tenyearsafter

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Involved with a JW woman

by jonza in

okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

we're in love and seriously want to be together.

Jonza, I have no doubt that you love this woman, and you have the final choice here, but you are already getting a glimpse of the future. You are only seeing a glimmer of the cult personality. The fact that she has a relationship with you, a "worldly man", convinces me that she feels she can change you once you are married. She has convinced herself that whatever she is doing now will be forgiven after she repents and brings you, a living offering, to the altar of the WT. This is a very tough situation...I would confront it head on. Tell her you will NEVER become a JW, and forbid any children to be raised as JW's...see what her reaction is. I am guessing she will say it is ok, but you will notice "tells" in her body language to the contrary.

Remember the old adage..."Men marry women hoping they will never change, and women marry men hoping they WILL change!"

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My personal movie review: Darren Aronofsky's NOAH

by Terry in

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noah, my movie review.

you may have already judged this film and you've never seen it!

like many of its critics, you think you know what you're going to see and .

tenyearsafter

Hi Terry...thanks for your thoughtful review.

I do see that Aronofsky's attempt was to show the conflicted feelings of Noah and his family amidst the evil of his time and his service to the Creator. I would disagree that this was good film making. I found the movie to be plodding, dark and unable to define itself. If it weren't so controversial as to its authenticity, the movie would have faded away at the box office based on its merits. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait for it to end...just plain boring. I agree with others that have stated it would have been better to follow the biblical version for story content...it would make for more interesting viewing.

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First post after a year or two of lurking on this site-Sorry for the length!

by Pattytheperfect1 in

not sure of the point of telling my story, but just got off the phone with my grandma and i am so angry, stressed and i don't know what else...i guess i just wanted to hear from someone other than my husband that i'm not crazy for my reaction to family interaction.. my condensed story gramatical errors and all :).

father was a born in jw, mother was a convert.

i was born the last of 3 siblings and shortly after my birth in 1981 my parents divorced.

tenyearsafter

Welcome!

It's amazing how many variations of this story there are. It is terrible that you had to endure this during your formative years, though it sounds like you have found happiness away from the JW's. I am always amazed at how JW's elevate themselves as being "better" than the world, yet produce as many, if not more, dysfunctional families than the very "worldy" ones they condemn...what a bunch of hypocrites!!

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The Noah Movie

by Quarterback in

well, i saw it.

you better get ready for everyone's talk about it.. it was 25 % biblical, 75 % fantasy.. noah was mean as a character, his family was great.

methusala, was an old fart..

tenyearsafter

I just saw it. I don't understand the uproar over the "environmental" theme and lack of Biblical authenticity...it wasn't really that obvious to the average person.

I went with the mindset that it was a fantasy movie, similar to Lord of the Rings or The Hobbit. For me it was just a mediocre movie that dragged frequently. The effects were so-so, and the acting passable. My overall take away was that this was a movie that would not stand up well on its own merits, but has been boosted by hype and bad publicity. Brilliant marketing, crappy movie.

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Involved with a JW woman

by jonza in

okay so i'm dating a born-in jw woman, she's younger than me and has no kids.

i'm a christian man whos divorced with 2 kids.

we're in love and seriously want to be together.

tenyearsafter

If she is having sex with you now and she is an active JW, she knows what she is doing is wrong. There are only two outcomes to this...one, she will leave JW's and you will live happily ever after...or two, she get's conscience pangs, confesses her sins, takes her discipline and becomes a "good" JW. The second outcome will not be pleasant for you. She will start to pressure you to convert...and don't be surprised if she starts withholding sex and intimacy as a condition to your complying. Unless she is willing to abandon the JW's, you will be at risk of a tumultuous relationship. The last thing you need is strife and having the kids become a battle ground. I hope things work out for you...

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Ireland Bethel up for sale

by Mattieu in

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http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/news/jehovahs-witnesses-hq-goes-on-market-2910987.html.

whenever a new branch or k/hall is built, its always proof that supposedly j is blessing his people and speeding up the work.

does that mean when they have to close a bethel branch it means he is pissed off with "his people"????.

tenyearsafter

Sell and rent back is very common...WT will get the cash, and the locals will be stuck with the rent back cost. Pretty clever actually...

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What happened to the "Witness" part of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by donny in

i just got back from my afternoon walk/run and about a block from home i saw two sets of jw's going door to door handing out invites to the memorial.. the first pair walked past me and only said "good afternoon" as they passed.. about two minutes later the second pair approached me and handed me an invite to 2014 memorial on april 14. i asked them why they chose the jw's as their church of choice and was told "we'd like to chat more but we have a set number of invites we have to get out before the memorial.

if you contact the kingdom hall listed here, they will tell you more... on how god's kingdom will rid the world of satan and the evil associated with him.".

i replied "you can't talk now?".

tenyearsafter

I like my wife's description of the Memorial from an outsider's point of view..."it has all the warmth of a tax seminar"!

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The Watchtower: Does This Game Of Jenga Ever End?

by metatron in

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there are a great many fine posts here - and some from 8 years back - detailing how apathetic and perfunctory the organization has become.. and yet, it still stands, doesn't it?.

is there any point to be reached in this apparent 'experiment in sociology' in which they wake up and say 'screw this?

' if they crammed 10 congregations into one hall and stole the money, would any witnesses wake up?

tenyearsafter

I am not convinced anything will wake everyone...if pedophilia cover ups, major "new light", flip flops on doctrine, etc. haven't done the trick, I don't know what will. If a person is brainwashed, it's tough to change that group think. Depressing thought, but an unfortunate reality...

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An Anti-Witnessing Campaign, Please Join Me!

by What Now? in

in the past few weeks, the shunning issue has become a very personal one for me, and i have begun to realize that it is not just enough for me and my family to fade out.

after some recent events, i am motivated to start some anti-watchtower activism of my own.. i, like many others, have hoped that there would be a scandal of epic proportions within the organization, something that would wake others up and trigger a mass exodus.. while i am still hopeful that this may happen, it seems that the organization is too good at damage control, and heightening the paranoia surrounding apostates.. but what if the ex-witness community tried a different approach?.

what if, to borrow a hockey term, a sort of shut out situation was created?.

tenyearsafter

I like the concept...I just wonder if people are pro-active enough to do what they need to to get on the "do not call" list. Many people just "go along" to be polite. Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

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the star of bethleham comong from satan

by nonjwspouse in

for some reason my husband has picked this topic after months of non communication of anything related biblical at all.

( he believes he came up with the idea onhis own ( he was raised jw and left as a 18 year old...ugh...right).

so since this was his topic my own thoughts have been expressed as well.

tenyearsafter

This was an interesting take on the Star of Bethlehem:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/203730/1/The-Star-of-Bethlehem-very-interesting#.UwTSQEJdWOU