Posts by Metamorphosis

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"IT WILL TAKE TIME TO RESTORE CHAOS" -GWB

by FireNBandits in

howdy ya'll.. .

i've been gone for a while, splitting hairs and infinitives, but i'm back, new and improved.

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Metamorphosis

Amen and DOUBLE Amen - I'm now a believer! Forgive me the error of my past ways and ignorance. I devote myself, your humble servant, to the all inspired truth of truths now and shed off the mangy sin ridden flesh of decay and turmoil that once I considered Life but know now to only have been the seed of SATEN's aspirations!

How dare I believe the false scientists! When they said the earth was round, when they said it rotated around the sun and turned on it's axis - what proof did I have? None - I personally had not seen it, but blindly followed their evil spewings and ended up covered in their spittle. Bless ye for letting me see the light once again!

Morph

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who's fault is it?

by bigdreaux in

when it comes to the society, are they to blame for the control they use upon the members, or is it the peoples fault?

should we blame the society for tricking people?

or is it the people that let themselves be tricked?

Metamorphosis

I agree with Journey On for the most part. The fault lies with lack of knowledge in many cases. If you were born into a room and was told the grass you saw outside the window was blue all your life and that you couldn't open the door to leave the room or you would die - and this was ingrained into you every day of the week from the time you were a babe - you would have very little reason to believe otherwise.

Then somebody walks into the room from outside and shows you that millions of people live outside of the room without fear of dying and believe the grass is something called 'green'.

Now that you have been exposed to new knowledge it is up to you. At this point i think the fault lies with you if you do not explore the second viewpoint. But before that time you knew of no other viewpoint.

I don't fault myself for believing earlier in my life. I had no logical reason to think they were not telling me the truth; there's always just enough reasoning to persuade in their arguments. True, I could have probably reasoned on some items better - and I didn't agree with all of their viewpoints, but enough that the balance shifted in their favor. When presented with solid evidence to the contrary however is when the blame of fault can shift. I saw the emptiness of what I had been taught. It's those who continue to blindly follow the path even once they have been exposed to this knowledge that I can't understand.

Morph

(edit: FYI I was raised in the religion when my parents were baptized when I was 3)

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1995-2005 Figures= 10 Years 2 Million Apostates???

by Witness 007 in

since russells time to now, how many apostates are there in the world??

take one example: figures for 1995-2005 publishers up 1,413,934. baptized up- 3,306,223. missing publishers- 1,892,289 ???.

if you factor in those that died in the 10 year period that is still alot of missing publishers compared to baptizms!

Metamorphosis

Whatever it is, it's still too low a number, for sure!

Morph

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Did you ever choke while offering prayer?

by Jourles in

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friends

of all the times i was called upon to say prayer, i only remember choking once - but it was such a big choke i totally embarrassed myself for days on end afterwards.

and this one time wasn't even at the kh, it was in a home right before we were going to pre-study the wt.. there were roughly 3 elders, their wives, and some other close friends of mine in the living room.

i'd say there were around 10 of us total.

Metamorphosis

My pet peeve has always been those brothers who want to give a public talk during their prayer. It's like they forget they are praying to God and just start talking to the congregation. They say stuff like..."and we want to remember to be at our meetings and be in field service because this is what Jehovah wants." Um...aren't you talking to Jehovah? It happens fairly regularly....

Morph

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Anyone else baptized in 1976..

by zeroday in

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friends

i was baptized at the "sacred secret" district convention in 1976. funny thing really i don't remember the 1975 issue as i was studing at that time and some how the subject never came up.

i was baptized at the inglewood california dc...

Metamorphosis

my parents were either baptized end of 75 or jan 76 - i just know it was when my mom was 8 months preggers with my brother. so i've often wondered if the reason they got baptized was the 1975 urgency... i should bring it up sometime and see the response (my dad is a PO at his hall now)

Morph

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blood card

by 4digitcode in

i went through my 10 year stay in the truth not knowing a whole lot about any of the teachings i realize.

i knew of them, knew the rules cause i read them all the time in the km,wt,awake....but i couldn't explain most of my beliefs with the bible.

i entered the faith at 13 years old, on my own and guess what at 13 years old with no parents pressuring me i really didn't like studying.

Metamorphosis

I'm still fading but i threw my blood card out of my wallet a year and a half ago.

Glad you didn't have to face the consequences of those decisions. It really is a convoluted mess as far as their reasonings on the subject go - what is and isn't allowed.

Morph

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Welcome angeleyes71

by Gopher in

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friends

here was her first post about an hour ago, tucked into another thread.

: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/142152/2551916/post.ashx#2551916.

i have been df'd for about 2 1/2 years now.

Metamorphosis

Welcome ae71! The worst thing to do would be to go back just because of lonliness...there are many friends to be made and things to experience outside the organization that you would never access within it. Take some time to look into some of the activities into your area that would open new avenues of meeting people!

Morph

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Yep I did it!

by WT=watchtrouble in

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friends

time to blow my trumpet - i got over the 100 post mark.. time to open the bar "i'm a junior member baby" lmao.. first person after me is to shout everyone a .

ok i'm not an alcoholic - i just enjoy a drink or 4 .

Metamorphosis

congrats! i'm getting close as well! (think i'll make it a red stripe today)

Morph

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The scotsman returns - but he is not the same....

by The Scotsman in

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friends

hello, yes the scotsman has returned, but i have been naughty .

i have been doing some of my own research on the internet etc regarding jws and some doctrinal issues.. i have had some doubts for a while but am beginning to think that some of our current teachings are simply unsustainable.. example - the 1914 timeframe.. the reason that this is so pivotal is that it is a foundation stone of the organization.

evidence is easily available to prove that this date is unsafe.. many on here speculate about revolution in the organization etc, if 1914 was moved it would have a catastrophic effect on the ordinary publisher and would lead to big change across the congregations.

Metamorphosis

It is not pleasant to sit at a meeting and thinking to yourself, "I do not believe what he/she just said".
I have a head full of doubts....
I was brought up in the truth – aged 30 something!
Wife is a JW, no kids. Most of the families in both sides are in the truth.

Scotsman - i was/am in your exact shoes. I'm currently 30 something, wife in, no kids, most family both sides in.

Two years ago I was exactly where you are now - just finding out about 1914/607. The path is long, the journey is not easy, but it is well worth it for your own sanity.

The 607/1914 date is also what started me to actually thinking for myself, examining the viewpoints I had hammered into me for 30+ years. There is much to learn - make sure and examine all evidence with critical thinking. Best of wishes as you carefully start to examine what you've been taught against what the Bible actually says.

I'm so far undergoing a successful fade without too much hassle, though most my family live a ways away and are not aware. However, i'm beginning to find the strength to want to speak up to them regardless of the consequences. I still have many decisions to make myself. Feel free to PM w/ any questions or to ask about other material I've found.

Sincerely,

Morph

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Transcript Of My KH's Discussion Of Sept. 2007 KM QFR

by Justitia Themis in

elder.

bro.

Metamorphosis

OMG. It's sad how obvious the control becomes once you are mentally free. Reading that was chilling. Over and Over people stated they had no right to think for themselves - they were told to follow somebody so that's what they were going to do.

Lots of people want others to follow. But if lies are the means to gain the trust - then truth will be the hammer to break those chains.

Thank God for sites like this that supply that truth. The above transcript shows how easy it is to fall prey when one is only exposed to a single viewpoint. And the very article being considered is being used to re-inforce the need for those ones to stick to a single viewpoint.

Well my view has changed. My independent study has given me a closer relationship to God than I ever had under the shadowed veil of the so called Truth. I have no need of their endorsement.

Morph.