Posts by dogon

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Just why would god create dinos??

by highdose in

the jw answer to this is that there must have been some purpose for them that we don't yet understand.. but dinos were pretty violent, basic animals who killed without mercy.

i know not all of them but alot of them did.

the ones that were vegetarian ate huge masses of vegatation, how is that productive to the earth?.

dogon

There is no evidence of god. Nothing in the known world proves that god, any god exists. I used to ask this same question to the elders and was told I think too much. I was told that they were to prepare the earth for man. LOL Really? God can create the universe but needs to create these beasts to make the earth ready for man? If that’s the best you got you ain't got much. The fact is they cannot answer it and will eventually tell you that we will not have the answers to all questions and may need to wait on some questions till after the big A or H depending on how you say it.

Tec, you are running in circles. First you say you have evidence in your life, well many people of every religion say the same line. So it is much more likely that people are putting the label of god on things like coincidence and happenstance than some god or gods having a hand in that tickle they get in their leg when they look at their baby or a sunset or finding a lost 100 dollar bill when it’s time to go to the assembly.

Next you say that no one can prove that god does not exist. True, no one can prove a universal negative. You cannot prove that a tea pot is not orbiting the moon and there is as much evidence that that is real as that god is real. You say "your faith" Faith by definition is believing without evidence. If you believe without evidence and you are going on faith which that is what you are doing than no one can argue with you. If you have faith that there are aliens that are visiting the earth then no lack of evidence will change your mind. In other words if you want to believe in something facts will never be a stumbling block. Its not living in reality but its your choice.

"I am not working 'around reality'. I am just not limiting myself to what can currently be proven or shown... since we are always adding to our understanding of the world around us. " But you are working around reality because every find of fact or discovery supports the conclusion you so hard try to disbelieve. No amount of facts that do not support you way of thinking will change your mind and the most trivial or insignificant fact that can be twisted to support your belief in the most weak manner is trumpeted by people like you as poof of the existence of god at the same time dismissing the mountain of solid evidence to the contrary. So you are working around reality. But you can do that if you wish. Jesus is some 2000 years late and either is a dead beat dad or nonexistent.

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Shunning Family Members is Unloving and Unscriptural Bullscheiße!

by TimothyT in

how much the organisation loves to quote from the letters to timothy!

however, how often do you see the following scripture being used to encourage ones to provide for a disfellowshipped family member?.

certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith and is worse than a person without faith.

dogon

shunning is all about control and nothing to do with love for another. If you buy into that tough love then your lost in the first place. The cult just wants to keep control of its member and keep them drinking the kool aid without question.

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It was only a matter of time...

by MrFreeze in

... until the braindead family would push the 607 magazine on me.

yeah, my stepdad stopped by the house because he locked himself out of his house and i still have a key.

so i take him over to his house and he proceeds to tell me about the article which i've heard about on here.

dogon

I have read Olafs book. Its exhaustive and after reading it if you still thinkg the society is right you deserve to give them all your money and live in the street.

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What's behind the JW "stare"

by InterestedOne in

in my interactions with jw males guarding the kh entrance or with the various males my study conductor would bring to our study (one i later found out was considered a "heavy," meaning he was supposedly really good at answering tough questions), i notice they stare intensely at me and i start fumbling my words.

in one case, i went to a different kh where no one knew me and got the same stare at the door.

is this stare deliberate, and if so, what is behind it?

dogon

they have guards? I think a kick to the cock would end that stare, then walk out and never return. Fuck em.

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Dec 15th WT: "Be like Solomon and don't go to university / don't be like Solomon and join a sports team!"

by cedars in

thanks to 'gayle' for bringing our attention to the fact that the december 15th watchtower has now been uploaded to jw.org.

it doesn't take long to reach the first juicy bit on pages 8 and 9, this time regarding higher education:.

it would be good to ask, am i taking to heart solomons example of treasuring divine wisdom?

dogon

Same old shit, different youth taken advantage of. I guess shoveling potatos and giving to the borg on credit card is a great way to live. These fucking idiots should be lined against a wall and shot.

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Credit Donation Machines in Assembly Halls

by leonbus23 in

i just received an email from the ex-jw meetup group coordinator in phoenix.

she stated that the jws are putting credit donation machines at the assembly halls.

is this true?

dogon

classic dubbers, they could give a shit about their followers as long as they get the cash. If anyone ever doubeted that its all about the money. Fuck these fools, if anyone is stupid enough to give money to them they deserve to be homeless and starving.

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JW's Thoughts on Medical Cannabis

by bushido8000 in

i've wondered this for sometime.

to all of the jws on the forum, what is your opinion on medical cannabis?

i support it for a couple of reasons.. 1. i've battled clinical depression since age 9. after my anti-depressants stopped working when i was 21, i heard about cannabis' positive effects on depression through the internet and a couple of documentaries so i tried it.

dogon

who cares what the F they think? What does it matter what L Ron Hubbard was thinking when he wrote that Xenu dropped all those alians in the volcanos? If you want to smoke it go for it and if you live in a state that has it legal for medical use, you luck Bastards. Its proven to be non adictive, can even help in cancer prevention and is a cheap pain killer for minor pain like menstral or back pain. I could give a rats what the freddie brown shoes think. A few old farts who have never seen a pussy. Although it would not shock me if they were bending over a few young boys at bethel camp. LOL

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Simplified ersion of the WT

by discreetslave in

dogon

You say they will not get your kids, are you still going to the hall? If you still go and you think your kids will not possibly fall to the cult and eventually cut you off you are sadly mistaken. To play with the cult is like going to Jones Town thinking you will get out at the last min. You may get a dose of Kool-Aid dumped down your throat. The only way to deal with them is to leave and be vocal about your experience with them. Never play with fire and think you are above getting burnt. If I had a dollar for every family that has been damaged or broken up by this cult I would be as wealthy as the cult. Wives who have come in because of the husband and then the husband leaves and the wife leaves the husband, kids who turn away from fathers and mothers and vis versa because someone left the borg. If you are in the cult and your kids are young leave and give them every chance at a happy normal life. Every min. you stay if you are in is harder and more dangerous for your future.

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1975 WAS a Big Deal!

by AllTimeJeff in

as we all know well, jehovah's witnesses taught from the mid '60s that the world would end until 1975. as we all know it is also now 2011. nuff said.. but 1975 had a lot of big things happen..... wheel of fortune first went on the air.. major watergate figures were convicted and went to jail.. the pittsburgh steelers won their first super bowl.

charlie chaplin is knighted by elizabeth ii.

bill gates founded microsoft.

dogon

I am old enough to remember "stay alive till 75" although not an official society slogan it was not discouraged either. They never came out and said that the end is 75, as they had learned enough over the years of failed predictions but it was heavily implied. Things like it would be very proper and fitting for the end to come in that time, or all the evidence points to 75 bla bla bal. They as usual borg fashion used weasler slogans so they could back themselves in a corner and then as While E. Coyote did throw an Acme black hole against the wall and slip through it at the last min. I have personal experience on what the 75 date did to people. My wife’s father quit GM and moved to north Michigan to get away from the city as it would collapse, my old partner Carl Kunde did the same thing and sold his farm near Holt MI and moved north to get away from the city’s. So many people I knew moved north in a boom of immigration to the north in the few years leading up to 75. Many with only enough money to get by till 76. When 75 came and went it was hard times and then in 78/79 the last big recession hit and Michigan was hit very hard. As the auto industry collapsed in the early 80s many moved to places like Washington and Texas, Florida to find work. But many still hold on and believe. How many licks does it take to get to the center of the tootsie pop? Who knows, and who knows how many times it takes to be kicked in the balls with the wrong end of the world dates before one starts to question that maybe their cult of choice is not really the right hand of god.

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This Weeks Watchtower Study

by Lets Think in

so paragraph 5 of todays watchtower says: people with faith see clearly the difference between the baseless claims of men and the sacred promises of jehovah god.

then i thought of every pre 1995 awake inside cover page in the box where it say why the awake is published; where it says:.

most important, this magazine builds confidence in the creators promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.. .

dogon

The statement you make is a false premise. Faith by definition is to believe without evidence. You don't need evidence to believe in something with faith. It is bull shit from the get go. What religion is saying is that I believe that Jesus is coming because I want to and its not because I have seen or can prove anything. One can have faith in any religion, this is why I had to go out side the bible and see if the bible itself had any base in fact. When I found its mostly bull shit I had to doubt all religion unless it could prove some base in fact. And fact must be substantial not that the bible or Koran said a city existed and archeology found that city. That’s like saying that since Troy was found Medusa must have turned men to stone with a look their way. That would be stupid and its just as stupid to say Jesus was the son of god and born of a virgin because some city the bible mentions is found. If god wants us to believe in him why not show himself to his children? If god exists he is a dead beat dad not a god of infinite wisdom. To debate the bible with the Witnesses to me if futile and worth little. It is a lot like debating with a child which is better the Easter bunny or Santa Claws, it does not matter who wins as the whole argument is flawed from the start. Debating fictional characters is for the mentally ill and children who have not fully formed their critical thinking.