Posts by Francois

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My new picture, I know, I'm beautiful!

by Tallyman in

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i snapped it just today.. okay, the secret's out.. i'm a model.. i have an agent and everything!.

like they say in the tv commercial:.

"don't hate me because i'm beautiful".

Francois

You people are sick. Sick, sick, sick.

Love it :-)

Francoise

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Jesus Died For........

by bjc2012 in

it is a well-accepted fact that jesus as an israelite was under the mosiac law covenant.

as he himself said at matthew 5:17: do not think i came to destroy the law or the prophets.

i came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.

Francois

It feels pretty good, actually.

But, you know, you have to have a minimum level of intelligence in order to comprehend what's being said to you.

If your maximum communication ability is illustrated by such phrases as "What if your wrong," then there's not much hope for you. Don't you know the difference between "your" and "you're"? Apparently not.

It's my fault though, Pommy. I keep forgetting that we have been instructed not to cast our pearls before swine.

Done with this thread. Bye.

Francoise

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Stevie Nicks

by Kristen in

something that always reminds me about getting older.

anyone hear her new release yet?.

landslide.

Francois

Kristen, I don't know if anyone has pointed this out to you yet, but that song you quote isn't new. It was first released in 1976.

Before your time?

Francoise

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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

by Wounded Heart in

used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

Francois

It's amazing how many people I've run across in the years during and after my partner disclosed her many personalities. They seem to be everywhere. It's also amazing how inventive adults can be in the many ways they dream up to abuse little kids. I was abused, but not to the point of elaborating new personalities to deal with the abuse and then casting up an amniestic wall between myself and them...at least so far as I know now.

And it is true, as implied above, that kids who survive by elaborating personalities to take the abuse tend to be way above average in intelligence and creativity. Good for them.

And there is something about being the partner of a person with MPD, especially if you love that person: it will bring out the very best in the partner; it causes one to be as sensitive, and caring, and compassionate as you know how to be. And it certainly teaches you to put someone else ahead of your own self and its needs. Of course, the person with MPD can engage in forms of abuse themselves and when that happens, all bets are off. It's a complex situation to have to deal with, and no one deserves to have to have it to do.

My very best to all survivors. You're truly a special group.

Francoise

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Here's a belief.........and a question

by Flowerpetal in

ok......lately at the baptismal talks there is mention of those getting baptized, that from that day on, they have become ordained ministers.

jehovah gives them that ordination.

so, in order for us to be ordained ministers from god, aren't we supposed to receive the holy spirit so that when we go out preaching and teaching to others, the spirit will help us and guide us to those interested individuals?.

Francois

YOU don't think so? Luckily for the rest of the human race, RR, God is not limited by that same stunted viewpoint and outlook that has your foot impaled to the ground.

F

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Jesus Died For........

by bjc2012 in

it is a well-accepted fact that jesus as an israelite was under the mosiac law covenant.

as he himself said at matthew 5:17: do not think i came to destroy the law or the prophets.

i came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.

Francois

My Dear Pom:

I’m not wrong. Far from it. The fear of the Lord may be the beginning of wisdom, my friend, but it is not the end.

For a long time there will live on earth timid, fearful, and hesitant individuals who will prefer to secure their religious consolations through the old religions of fear – like Jehovah’s Witnesses, and in so casting their lot with these religions of authority, they compromise the sovereignty of personality, debase the dignity of self-respect, and utterly surrender the right to participate in that most thrilling and inspiring of all possible human experiences: the personal quest for truth, the exhilaration of facing the perils of intellectual discovery, the determination to explore the realities of personal religious experience, the supreme satisfaction of experiencing the personal triumph of the actual realization of the victory of spiritual faith over intellectual doubt as it is honestly won in the supreme adventure of all human existence--man seeking God, for himself and as himself, and finding him.

While the religion of authority may impart a present feeling of settled security, you pay for such a transient satisfaction the price of the loss of your spiritual freedom and religious liberty. Our Father does not require as the price of entering the kingdom of heaven that you should force yourself to subscribe to a belief in things which are spiritually repugnant, unholy, and untruthful. It is not required of you that your own sense of mercy, justice, and truth should be outraged by submission to an outworn system of religious forms and dogmatic teachings. The religion of the spirit leaves you forever free to follow the truth wherever the leadings of the spirit may take you. And who can judge--perhaps this spirit may have something to impart to you that others have refused to hear?

What if I’m wrong? I’m not wrong. I’ve entered that “kingdom of heaven” that is within me, and have listened to Jesus’ often repeated injunction “fear not.” Having started out on the way of life, having accepted this assignment and received the admonition to advance, I do not fear the dangers of human forgetfulness and mortal inconstancy, nor am I troubled with doubts of failure or by perplexing confusion, nor do I falter and question my status and standing as a child of God, for at every crossroad in the forward struggle, the Spirit of Truth has always spoken, saying, "This is the way." It has never failed me, Pom, and it won’t fail you either if you will only decide finally to throw off that religion of authority and fear and begin your own attempt to become creature perfect as your father in heaven is spirit perfect.

Francoise

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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

by Wounded Heart in

used to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.

i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.

the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.

Francois

My Dear Wounded Heart:

I've been wondering for some time what has attracted, and then held, my attention and participation on this board. And now I read your post.

I was for almost ten years in relationship with a young woman who was suffering Multiple Personality Disorder. We began our relationship before the MPD was known; and in fact, the initial relationship was between myself and one of her alternate personalities - although no one knew it but the alternate. And I stayed with her - I could do nothing else - from before initial diagnosis until reunification. I hope I can help you, and I'm very willing to try.

If you want to conduct discussions privately, I'll be happy to exchange emails with you directly.

For starters, it would be helpful to know: (I just made and then deleted a list of questions). Perhaps it would be helpful for you to say what you feel comfortable saying about your situation and then we could go from there?

Let me say that my partner was sexually abused by a pair of JW special pioneers who also were into Satanism on the side. (Boy, what a group of happy swingers those wild and crazy Jehovah's Witnesses are, huh?). She began to have intrusive recall when she was 28 years old, and then the healing began. Yes, the recall is part of healing. An experience hard to bear, but it is a part of healing.)

I want to reinstate a few of those questions that I deleted if that's OK:

Are you safe now?
Are you in therapy?
Was Satanism involved?
Do you have an Inner Self Helper?
Are you the original personality, or are you an alternate?

No more questions now, even though you invite them. You must know that too much prying might well evoke a negative response from an alternate and then you might not get the help you need.

I will be standing by in case you would like to go ahead.

Best Regards,

Francoise

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Jesus Died For........

by bjc2012 in

it is a well-accepted fact that jesus as an israelite was under the mosiac law covenant.

as he himself said at matthew 5:17: do not think i came to destroy the law or the prophets.

i came, not to destroy, but to fulfill.

Francois

Twaddle. Utter twaddle.

The people of this planet continue to suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God. The gods who go on a rampage in the storm; who shake the earth in their wrath and strike down men in their anger; who inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood--these are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the God who lives in and rules the universes. Such concepts are a relic of the times when men supposed that the universe was under the guidance and domination of the whims of such imaginary gods. But we are beginning to realize that we live in a realm of comparative law and order as far as concerns the administration of the universes.

The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

The Hebrews believed that "without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin." They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices and substituted therefor, in the primitive minds of his childlike Bedouin followers, the ceremonial sacrifice of animals.

The bestowal of a Paradise Son of God on our world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God. This bestowal also happened to be the final personal act of a Creator Son in the long adventure of earning the sovereignty of his universe. What a travesty upon the infinite character of God! this teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary!

Jesus didn't die for ME. Or you. Throw down that crutch you're propping yourselves up on and get a real concept of the real nature and character of God. And then get off your knees and stand upright to claim your status as a full-fledged son or daughter of God in your own right. "For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God."

Francoise

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Unconditional Love

by TR in

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"i love my parents more than anything.

they gave me unconditional love.

they said, 'son, we love you whether you succeed or fail.

Francois

Very good observation. In a corollary, Jay-Dubs also pervert the meaning of "neighbor" in the scripture about loving your neighbor. In fact, all the fundys do it so far as I know. It seems pretty obvious to me that "neighbor" means each and every individual on this planet. All of them.

How could it be otherwise? If God is the father of all humans, then the brotherhood of all humans seems inescapable to me. Ironically, that includes each and every member of the JWs as well. And every Hindu, Muslin, Christian...

I think that all with truly spiritual vision regard those who have not progressed beyond the primitive religions of fear and authority as family members tardy in their development, and treat them as if we were already citizens of that higher estate of cosmic consciousness that must certainly come after this life.

The organizations to which they belong are not animate things, and are not deserving of such empathy in my view. But deserve scorn only, and every effort possible to help so enlighten their membership that the organization is "destroyed" by sheer lack of membership.

And, yep, I know just exactly how hard it is to put that kind of idealism into practice when what you really want to do is get your powerful fingers around the bony pencil necks every blind, mote-loving, Jehovah's Witness pig-dog ass hole and choke the living shit out of each and every one of them 'till they've had the organization throttled totally out of their life.

How's this post for a study in contrasts?

Francoise

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On Independence (here go sister fred)

by Big Jim in

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i don't think that the flesh is necessarily treacherous, evil, bad.

it is cantankerous, and it is independent.

the idea of independence is the key.

Francois

Well said, well said indeed.

However, you can bet you're in for some tortured logic and specious reasoning from some of the hard-shell JWs that lurk on this site. I mean, after all, they become just like the god they worship, the WTB&TS. What could be more illogical and specious than that?

Actually, as I've noted before, cults attract a specific personality type, and that type is impervious to anything resembling reasoning. Those of us who got out I suspect were never really in, if you know what I mean. There was something else at work that had us there in the first place: was raised in it and bugged out at the first opportunity; trying to please a spouse; trying to please someone who you wanted to be a spouse; temporary insanity. As soon as we came to our good senses, we were gone. And not being the type who like being lied to, kicked around, or screwed with in general - we screw back.

Serves 'em right. The bastards.

Francoise