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  should I Respond to judgment panel after 14 years?

  by sennabrasil94 in

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  it's been 14 years since i was anathmatised at 17 years of age, i was never baptised but they still marked me as dissaproved asociation,it had the same effect as being dissfellowshiped.

  this tore my family apart i was satan's child acording to my stepfather want-a-be.

  the elders suggested that because i was haveing sexual relations with worldy girls and drinking that it would lead to drug addition jail and homosexuality and destruction at armageton.

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  Francois

  The point has been made already, but it bears repeating.

  When an abused person confronts the abuser, whether it's in person, in a letter, on the phone or whatever, the confrontation is for the benefit of the abused person, not the abuser.

  I took the letter approach, because - well - I'm a writer. And a letter gives you time and space to think about what you've said and to add to it, to subtract from it, to wait a while and make sure you haven't left anything out.

  And you can always threatent to multiply copies of it and send it to a million people if the abuser doesn't respond. Worked for me.

  Good luck,
  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  INTERNET

  by Utopian Reformist in

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  are we all guilty of virtual apostasy?

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  Francois

  I don't know about the rest, but I'm definitely guilty of direct, open, frank, honest, sincere, and total rebellion against the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses and have been for nearly thirty years. There's nothing virtual about it. If that counts as apostasy, then my soul is deeply dyed.

  JWs have my personal and heartfelt invitation to go fuck themselves at every opportunity.

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  JWs & The Post-Modern Inquisition

  by Francois in

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  if the organization of jehovah's witnesses had the temporal, political power to do so, would they execute those whom they had adjudged apostate?.

  would jws initiate another great inquisition?

  and who would be tomas de torquemada?.

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  Francois

  The JWs have never stopped to think about what they're saying, viz. how would a perfect world with perfect citizens be administered by an external government. Would it be socialistic, capitalistic, communistic, what? It's an area they've never addressed. This makes it fall into the "It just happens" category.

  And what would they do with people who tired of perfection and big brother peering over each shoulder. Can you imagine Christ responding to the types of "glorious ones" we have making that claim in today's society?

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  JWs & The Post-Modern Inquisition

  by Francois in

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  if the organization of jehovah's witnesses had the temporal, political power to do so, would they execute those whom they had adjudged apostate?.

  would jws initiate another great inquisition?

  and who would be tomas de torquemada?.

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  Francois

  If the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses had the temporal, political power to do so, would they execute those whom they had adjudged apostate?

  Would JWs initiate another great Inquisition? And who would be Tomas de Torquemada?

  What do you think?

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Another Braindead, miserable wretch

  by Kent in

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  misunderstanding of exactly what the prophetic word......... .

  -=( samuel moser )=- 8467155 - sun mar 12 4:08:36 2000. new carlisle oh usa, [email protected].

  we do not prophesy new prophesy apart from the bible.

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  Francois

  And there are people who continue, all these years later, to defend Jim & Tammy Faye Bakker. There's no hope for these types, Kent. And arguing with them is a waste of breath.

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Are ex-dubs still in denial?

  by Rex B13 in

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  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010729/wl/israel_palestinians.html .

  divine prophecy fullfilled on a daily basis.

  ex jdubs in denial on a daily basis.. rex

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  Francois

  There's fighting between Jews and Arabs??? STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES!! NEWS FLASH.

  This ranks right up there with: Republicans and Democrats Disagree on Taxes.

  And: U.S. Grant's Body Found in Grant's Tomb.

  Tell us, Rex, do you fart in the bath tub and try to bite the bubbles you fucking moron?

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Telling The Truth Will Set You Free

  by Big Jim in

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  telling the truth will set you free.

  brother j. edgar elder was a very well read jehovah's witness.

  he had been a witness for over half a century and was quite familiar with present and past jw doctrine.

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  Francois

  Are you deaf, dumb, and blind?

  You are engaging in the sincerest form of flattery at a record-setting pace. What's your point?

  Francois

  P.S. Oh, um, you have apparently lost your audience.

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Official Christian Qualities

  by philo in

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  fruits of the watchtower spirit .

  love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control.. love means duty:.

  a duty to be expressed on a sliding scale, towards: firstly, the organisation which is de facto god, the brotherhood, one's spouse and children, other family, worldly relatives, ex-jws, and lastly, to apostate 'persons' (not their deeds) in the form of godly hatred.. joy means routine:.

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  Francois

  Ya, I remember in college (yes, I can remember that far back), after the meetings, my best friend and I would jump in the car and drive from Kingsport, TN, to Gate City, VA to the nearest oasis and have burgers and beer 'till we could barely walk. It was a sort of a reward for sitting through another mind-numbing two hours of horse-shit (with apologies to the horse).

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Question for Jim Ladd.

  by voltaire in

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  jim,.

  i just read on another post that you are close to being df'ed for having doubts.

  i, too, am on the bubble, so to speak.

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  Francois

  You didn't ask me, but if you have family you want to stay in touch with, best you do the slow fade. They can't force you to meet with them, they can't force you to answer any questions against your will. They have no power over you that you don't give them. Tell them so.

  You can't be walked on unless you lie down first.

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.
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  Fitzwater Case-Seeking Information

  by silentlambs in

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  the story below describes a case we are looking into.

  if you know of any elders or former elders who have any knowledge whatsoever of this case please have them contact me through email.. silentlambs.

  march 16, 1998 .

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  Francois

  Waiting:

  Seems redundant to me. Sort of like "echo back". This statement "criminal elder" is the same sort of thing.

  Francois

  Where it is a duty to worship the Sun you can be sure that a study of the laws of heat is a crime.