apparantly, these days it is general knowledge in our local congregation that the wtbts had joined the united nations as an ngo!.
this is not a problem i am reliably told by a local relative.. the un nations deserves the same respect as any other governmental authority and just as jehovah's witnesses would obey the law of the land there is no problem in being part of the united nations!
i know jws have their minds well and truly under control, but as i remember the united nations was bad mouthed from its inception by the wtbts.. hyprocrisy, lying and slander were all words that crossed my mind when talking to this relative, but the huge pointlessness of trying to wake up a jw from their 'cosy' fantasy world suddenly struck me and i made my excuses and left..
The UN Nations deserves the same respect as any other Governmental authority and just as Jehovah's Witnesses would obey the law of the land there is no problem in being part of the United Nations!
well then in that case I'm going to vote and support my local political party
in this organization, how can any witness express their disapproval of anything?
the society has.
even stooped so low as to disfellowship people who disagree with the fact of other people being .
Start self development courses and whatever further education you can lay your hands on and then tell everyone about it.
Talk about different books you are reading and enjoying - offer to lend them out
Leave in the middle of the public talk and say you have a headache
my first week of posts here were very serious and all the wonderful, encouraging replies helped me very much.. so now i want to ask something semi-frivolous.
(actually it's one of the many things that don't make sense to me about "the truth").
why do animals die?.
very interesting Leolaia, thanks for that explanation, it makes sense
i have been trying to sort this out scripturally, and would like to get input from christians on how these two concepts differ and/or overlap.
please be liberal with scriptures to support statements.
i think there may be others who are trying to figure this out for themselves, too.
Terry
Narkissos brilliantly describes the use of metaphor in his posts. He is one of my favorite posters. He is also my Jiminey Cricket.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiminy_Cricket
Jiminy Cricket is a fictional character who first appeared in the 1940Walt Disneyanimated film Pinocchio. He was appointed by the Blue Fairy to serve as the official conscience for Pinocchio. He is also a comical and wise partner who accompanies Pinocchio on his adventures.
out there?.
i am currently sipping on a green tea.
but am partial to celestial seasonings tension tamer or ginger.. what's yours?.
I drink lots of tea too - herbal as well as indian tea.
fadingaway
Hey Blackswan, the way my mom taught me was to add a couple of cloves, a couple of cardamom seeds (I don't know if I spelled this right, so please be easy on me Terry!), and a stick of cinnamon in the water then let it come to a boil. Add a Tetly tea bag and let it steep for a few minutes, then add milk and let it come back to a boil and voila! You have FadingAway style chai
I love chai tea - usually get mine from Starbucks -lol - but your recipe looks easy enough to try at home
my brother in law is enlisiting the help and support of family members in undertaking a half marathon, december 6th in aid of leukemia research from which his brother died twenty years ago........ so in a moment of madness i agreed to do it and also roped in my husband and 2 friends..........now i think i am the least fit of us 4.......i used to run regularly but havent done for a couple of years............i knackered my knee badly in 1999 (basically ripped it apart falling off a horse which then bolted up the road with my foot still in the stirrup)........so now although i can run slowly i get pain in my knee's....... so i have between now and first week in december to get fit and ready for a half marathon........the furthest i have run before is probably 6 miles.......... so am i biting off more than i can chew?.
any recommended fitness programmes?.
any special diet tips?.
I injured my knee playing football with the dubs - lol - a few years ago. I was advised to do isolation exercises for my knee once it had healed. Front and back, quadrecep and hamstring exercises. I was back to running very quickly.
Aim to walk and run - 2mins running 2mins walking to build endurance during your training. If your knee starts to hurt during the running segments then walk more. You'll gradually build stamina.
good luck. I've often though about doing a half marathon but never signed up. Have done 10k in 54 minutes. My moment of glory
one of the major premises of most religions is to accept that some must be destroyed in order for others to obtain everlasting life.
of course, there are many platitudes that a person relies on to soothe the conscience and sanitize the mind.. the ones to be destroyed deserve it.
they refuse to do something, worship god, beg for forgiveness, live a clean life, whatever.they are selfish and nobody can change them but themselves.. but underneath the smug acceptance of salvation, while the others suffer destruction is probably the most selfish concept of all.
Dear quitelyleaving,
Interesting thought. I think there is no question that the archetypical manifestation of God is (in part?) a coping mechanism. At least it has to be a mechanism for something, otherwise it wouldn't survive. The mind has undergrone evolution, just like the body (another one of Jung's insights). If this is so, there are all sorts of vestigial structures in the mind just as there are in the body (which makes it so difficult to get a clear picture of it).
Perhaps one of these vestigial structures was the concept of self/god (and soul as imago dei, immortal image of self/god) as coping mechanism for death (of self, and loved ones), constructed in a primitive line of reasoning like 'if they must die, then by my own hands!' Having a (projected) God above you at least gives certainty.
These conceptual frameworks are by their nature very risky, I'm just probing here.
Regards,
Deus Mauzzim
I'm not sure if we can dismiss those conceptual frameworks as vestigial just yet. Cos the concepts may have got them past futility and despair as they do today. I'm not agreeing with them - I'm just very impressed that they used their imagination to fuel their desire to continue living and progressing and not giving in to the futility of death and destruction in nature and in humans.
I'm seeing our projection of religious concepts as vestigal and primitive as our way of coping with our past in the same way that people in the past and today project their deep seated fears onto god. Does that make sense. We can't escape ourselves and our fragility - we have to face it.
But I'm straying from this thread topic.
i only have one regret in life.
i didnt have a child.
to have some little munchkin to teach about everything and see what they become?
IP its not too late, i think you'd make a great dad.
matthew 24:48-51 48 but if ever that evil slave should say in his heart, "my master is delaying," and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his part with the hypocrites.
there is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.. insight on the scriptures, volume 1, p. 787, expelling.
finally, there was shammatta, an entire cutting off from the congregation.
auldsoul
Elders on the forum: Do interactions with the Service Desk and certain COs or DOs give you the impression that you are viewed as amhaarets? (Psst! I already know the answer, but I just wanted lurkers to see that even congregation elders are considered this way by the organization elite)
Not an elder but from what I've observed - yes
one of the major premises of most religions is to accept that some must be destroyed in order for others to obtain everlasting life.
of course, there are many platitudes that a person relies on to soothe the conscience and sanitize the mind.. the ones to be destroyed deserve it.
they refuse to do something, worship god, beg for forgiveness, live a clean life, whatever.they are selfish and nobody can change them but themselves.. but underneath the smug acceptance of salvation, while the others suffer destruction is probably the most selfish concept of all.
deus mauzzim
I'm researching Jungian archetypes at the moment, and yesterday I read that, according to Jung, the concept of God reflects the concept of Self in the psyche. God is projected Self.
So, with x billion believers in the Judeo-Christian God, that is not a nice picture for humanity: jealous, selfish, arrogant, destructive.
Truly man created God in his own image.
very interesting. Just wondering - re 'God is projected Self' above - if man copes with the death and devastation that he sees all around him, including the death and decay of loved ones - by anticipating it through god bringing destruction on men women and children. Does that make sense. What do you think?
